What I mean is that all the responses are about privacy and mistrust of the vendor rather than the experiment relating to higher speed access technology and that we could be a factor in getting Phoenix to be chosen as one of the experiment sites which seems the purpose of the original message. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Frank wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: > >> Hmmm, original post and 10 replies. And the only message on topic is the >> original question to which no one gave a response. Very sad!!! >> > > I think this is all on topic: having Google as an ISP in the Valley would > give them the same access to our data as Cox currently has (in my case.) > > >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Frank wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Frank wrote: >>>> > It really isn't any different to ISP's knowledge of our online >>>> activities >>>> > now... I think its actually better since Google is fully upfront about >>>> their >>>> > access to our online activities! >>>> > Privacy is important, but on the internet, we've never had it... I >>>> don't >>>> > really understand the uproar directed at Google, if anything, its >>>> better >>>> > that so much is stored in one place... the more there is, the harder >>>> it is >>>> > to track unless they have good reason. If you're doing nothing illegal >>>> on >>>> > the internet, I don't see why people worry? >>>> >>>> If it were financially feasible to do so, it sounds like you would >>>> have no problem with a having a police officer follow you and watch >>>> you 24/7. After all, you would not do anything illegal, right? >>>> >>> >>> We already have cameras on us almost anywhere we go, FBI also can tap >>> your phone for a wide variety of reasons. Your television habits are tracked >>> too, else how do they get ratings? I don't see people stopping their use of >>> phones and TV, or not going on freeways or to public places due to privacy? >>> Internet privacy is very similar in many ways to both of these, unless we're >>> doing something wrong, we know they're not singling us out. >>> >>> Your statement even points this out, it simply isn't feasible to track >>> and monitor everything each person does online, there is simply too much >>> data! With it all going to one source, it makes this even less feasible. >>> AdSense and friends use your data in certain algorithms, but there isn't an >>> actual person taking time out of their day to see what news articles you >>> read today or what you downloaded yesterday. >>> >>> I understand most people are much more private than me, but I personally >>> worry more about things like censorship compared to privacy... I simply >>> don't have much to hide. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry >> >> The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain >> occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. >> - Thomas Jefferson >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. - Thomas Jefferson