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Author: James Mcphee
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To: phrkonaleash, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Politics/Ethics: Operation PinWale - Obama Administration Seeks Emergency Control of the Internet
I've always been against information farming without consent. I'm far less
concerned about what will be done with the information today, since I
consider myself a well-adjusted and lawful individual. But what happens in
20 years when societal norms have changed and someone digs up my info to
find out that I used to eat a lot of *gasp* sugar! 'cause that's just
unamerican in 2030.

In my opinion, the answer to our having "vital infrastructure" that is
easily attacked is to harden that "vital infrastructure". Not sanction a
new generation of witch-hunters.

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Ryan Rix <> wrote:

> mike havens wrote:
>
> > I think only land oners should have the right to vote. I do not own
> > anything so I would not get to vote.
>
> White land owning men? :P
>
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, James Lee Bell
> > <>wrote:
> >
> >> Jason Spatafore wrote:
> >> > Until the representatives are removed...we will constantly struggle
> >> > with this so-called Democracy. Technology has finally caught up to
> >> > where it can be used for a direct Democratic country with lower costs
> >> > than running elections every two years. Now is the time to start
> >> > implementing.
> >> I rarely get involved in these discussions, preferring to lurk, but this
> >> is a very intriguing concept that *might* actually be feasible and
> >> achievable. All we have to do is figure out how to accomplish absolutely
> >> unhackable authentication without violating every right to privacy we
> >> hold dear. Anybody want to hack that up by next Thursday? :-)
> >>
> >> > And yes, my first vote is to eliminate paper ballots and bar people
> >> > without access to computers from elections. Sorry, a computer is
> >> > available almost everywhere you go. It's time to grow with the times
> >> > and move on.
> >> I have to say I find this specific means-testing inappropriate just
> >> considering simple demographics. Have we even broken the 50% threshold
> >> of our eligible-to-vote citizens that could have access beyond dial-up?
> >> Hey, you want to computerize (*securely*) the collection of votes in
> >> such a way that folks in "flyover country (/sarcasm)" get to use the
> >> mechanism without owning the device and infrastructure, and without the
> >> yearly trip to Bethlehem, I'm right there with you. Give it 25 years,
> >> and maybe every citizen will have some level of computing device to
> >> participate. Until then...
> >>
> >> Just to take a philosophical hitch that'll probably generate a reaction
> >> to put me back in lurk mode, I absolutely think there should be a simple
> >> means test to earn voting rights: for the government entity in which you
> >> are about to vote (fed, state, city), have you paid taxes to that entity
> >> in x% of your eligible voting life (18+)? (asbestos underwear engaged
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