I've always been against information farming without consent. I'm far less concerned about what will be done with the information today, since I consider myself a well-adjusted and lawful individual. But what happens in 20 years when societal norms have changed and someone digs up my info to find out that I used to eat a lot of *gasp* sugar! 'cause that's just unamerican in 2030. In my opinion, the answer to our having "vital infrastructure" that is easily attacked is to harden that "vital infrastructure". Not sanction a new generation of witch-hunters. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > mike havens wrote: > > > I think only land oners should have the right to vote. I do not own > > anything so I would not get to vote. > > White land owning men? :P > > > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, James Lee Bell > > wrote: > > > >> Jason Spatafore wrote: > >> > Until the representatives are removed...we will constantly struggle > >> > with this so-called Democracy. Technology has finally caught up to > >> > where it can be used for a direct Democratic country with lower costs > >> > than running elections every two years. Now is the time to start > >> > implementing. > >> I rarely get involved in these discussions, preferring to lurk, but this > >> is a very intriguing concept that *might* actually be feasible and > >> achievable. All we have to do is figure out how to accomplish absolutely > >> unhackable authentication without violating every right to privacy we > >> hold dear. Anybody want to hack that up by next Thursday? :-) > >> > >> > And yes, my first vote is to eliminate paper ballots and bar people > >> > without access to computers from elections. Sorry, a computer is > >> > available almost everywhere you go. It's time to grow with the times > >> > and move on. > >> I have to say I find this specific means-testing inappropriate just > >> considering simple demographics. Have we even broken the 50% threshold > >> of our eligible-to-vote citizens that could have access beyond dial-up? > >> Hey, you want to computerize (*securely*) the collection of votes in > >> such a way that folks in "flyover country (/sarcasm)" get to use the > >> mechanism without owning the device and infrastructure, and without the > >> yearly trip to Bethlehem, I'm right there with you. Give it 25 years, > >> and maybe every citizen will have some level of computing device to > >> participate. Until then... > >> > >> Just to take a philosophical hitch that'll probably generate a reaction > >> to put me back in lurk mode, I absolutely think there should be a simple > >> means test to earn voting rights: for the government entity in which you > >> are about to vote (fed, state, city), have you paid taxes to that entity > >> in x% of your eligible voting life (18+)? (asbestos underwear engaged > >> :-)). --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Ryan Rix > (623)-826-0051 > > Fortune: > Been Transferred Lately? > > http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash > XMPP: phrkonaleash@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonaleash@yahoo.com > AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash > IRC: PhrkOnLsh@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and > countless other FOSS channels. > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- James McPhee jmcphe@gmail.com