Re: ****Re: ****Re: guess what....

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Lisa Kachold<lisakachold@obnosis.com> wrote:
> On 8/2/09, keith smith <klsmith2020@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is there a social security escrow account that contains the fund to meet the
>> social security requirements until 2040 the year you said it was viable to?
>>
>> Social security is rutinely taken to fund other projects and the 2040 year
>> you sate is more than likely based on a projection of requirements and what
>> will be collected.  This is a guess.  The money is not there.  It is not
>> like a 401k account where you can say I have X in it and that is based on
>> real money.
>>
>> You agree medicare is bankrupt.  And you say by letting the government
>> manage all our health care needs in the same way they run medicare we will
>> all be better off.
>
> The whole money system is virtual, don't you understand

right. if you don't believe in it, http://bullionvault.com

what Im waiting for is the govt to prohibit possessing gold like
they did during the Great Depression.

at this point our debt is so incredibly huge I can't imagine any
other way out than inflation.

interesting but somewhat gonzo youtube film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzmYI_4XCbM

-jmz


>
> Since we used silver certificates, we create the whole thing.  The
> original self contained system with so much paid in and so much paying
> out is LONG GONE.
>
> It's not even missed by anyone but people sipping the old anti-new-deal whine.
>>
>> I'd like to continue the debate and I will.  I am in the process of putting
>> up a website that outlines all my beliefs with supporting references.  When
>> i complete that site I will provide a link.
>
> Things to consider/include:
>
> http://bit.ly/RlegU
>
>
>
>> ------------------------
>> Keith Smith
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 8/2/09, Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com>
>>> Subject: Re: ****Re: ****Re: guess what....
>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>> Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 3:07 PM
>>> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 14:26 -0700,
>>> keith smith wrote:
>>> > I think some of your references might be less than
>>> accurate.
>>> >
>>> > From what I am hearing you would like Health Care run
>>> like Social Security and Medicare.  Both are failing
>>> and bankrupt.  And guess who runs them?  The
>>> government.
>>> ----
>>> please cite your source about Social Security being
>>> bankrupt?
>>>
>>> as for Medicare, yes medical costs have skyrocketed...that
>>> is what we
>>> are talking about fixing.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
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