On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > On 8/2/09, keith smith wrote: >> >> >> Is there a social security escrow account that contains the fund to meet the >> social security requirements until 2040 the year you said it was viable to? >> >> Social security is rutinely taken to fund other projects and the 2040 year >> you sate is more than likely based on a projection of requirements and what >> will be collected.  This is a guess.  The money is not there.  It is not >> like a 401k account where you can say I have X in it and that is based on >> real money. >> >> You agree medicare is bankrupt.  And you say by letting the government >> manage all our health care needs in the same way they run medicare we will >> all be better off. > > The whole money system is virtual, don't you understand right. if you don't believe in it, http://bullionvault.com what Im waiting for is the govt to prohibit possessing gold like they did during the Great Depression. at this point our debt is so incredibly huge I can't imagine any other way out than inflation. interesting but somewhat gonzo youtube film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzmYI_4XCbM -jmz > > Since we used silver certificates, we create the whole thing.  The > original self contained system with so much paid in and so much paying > out is LONG GONE. > > It's not even missed by anyone but people sipping the old anti-new-deal whine. >> >> I'd like to continue the debate and I will.  I am in the process of putting >> up a website that outlines all my beliefs with supporting references.  When >> i complete that site I will provide a link. > > Things to consider/include: > > http://bit.ly/RlegU > > > >> ------------------------ >> Keith Smith >> >> >> --- On Sun, 8/2/09, Craig White wrote: >> >>> From: Craig White >>> Subject: Re: ****Re: ****Re: guess what.... >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 3:07 PM >>> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 14:26 -0700, >>> keith smith wrote: >>> > I think some of your references might be less than >>> accurate. >>> > >>> > From what I am hearing you would like Health Care run >>> like Social Security and Medicare.  Both are failing >>> and bankrupt.  And guess who runs them?  The >>> government. >>> ---- >>> please cite your source about Social Security being >>> bankrupt? >>> >>> as for Medicare, yes medical costs have skyrocketed...that >>> is what we >>> are talking about fixing. >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>> believed to be clean. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail >>> settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > -- > http://linuxgazette.net/165/kachold.html > (623)239-3392 > (503)754-4452 www.obnosis.com > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss