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Author: Stephen
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Subject: Re: PLUG Etiquette
your the newb eliteist troublemaker?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, James
Finstrom<> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Lisa Kachold <>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:10 AM, JD Austin <> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Lisa Kachold <>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> After interacting in PLUG events over the last 3 years here, teaching at
>>>> freegeek.org and running the POWUG for 3 years in Oregon while also after
>>>> interacting in technology for more than 25 years in the trenches, I have
>>>> seen a great deal of bad manners, ineffective competition, and behavior that
>>>> leads anywhere but toward free and open discussion and interaction.
>>>>
>>>> I have also observed interaction styles and personality types that save
>>>> a group with their fun approach, easy going nature and humanism.
>>>>
>>>> As you read these you might try not to descend to black and white
>>>> thinking, but see what each type ultimately provides to the group
>>>> experience.
>>>>
>>>> I am sure some of these basic types everyone will recognize:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Mr. OneUpMan:
>>>>
>>>> Rather than happily bantering along in information exchange, he powers
>>>> out to look more Intelligent or rudely talks down to others.  This can
>>>> include a swift change of subject to something not even similar to the issue
>>>> or subject stream.   He can never just "play" with others, and never ever
>>>> asks a question.  He can be so dominating that the whole discussion around
>>>> him has to be limited to his experience, his training and his viewpoint.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Mr. Academic:
>>>>
>>>> This person will always fill in extraneous details and add additional
>>>> information.  He is certain that he is the one and only authority.
>>>> Unfortunately, often this limits others from actually doing their own
>>>> research (via google or other written documentation).
>>>>
>>>> 3) Mr. Gossip:
>>>>
>>>> This person, rather than discuss technology, complete lab exercises or
>>>> listen to others, spends a great deal of time discussing others, local
>>>> shops, history (skewed by their own resentments and losses or those of their
>>>> ally fellows).  Anything this person overhears in first person singular
>>>> humanism becomes fodder for their next ten sessions.  They generally do not
>>>> show up at events prepared for and interested in technical viewpoints.  They
>>>> often take "sides" without evaluating the truth from a distance or without
>>>> determining if it's actually their business.
>>>>
>>>> 4) Mr. Serial Processing:
>>>>
>>>> This attendee cannot equate and absorb any information that he does not
>>>> direct.  He will take great measures of everyone's time by asking directed
>>>> questions to one individual about material that was just covered by group
>>>> discussion or presentation.  Often his frustration becomes anger whereupon
>>>> this person will accuse others of talking down to him.  This is common in
>>>> individuals who are experiencing a B vitamin deficiency (that ultimately can
>>>> lead to Korsakoff's Psychosis and confabulation) from nutritional issues,
>>>> but generally due to daily ingesting large amounts of drugs or alcohol or a
>>>> liver or other health disorder.
>>>>
>>>> 5) Mr. Rude Helper:
>>>>
>>>> This PLUG attendee will approach someone who they don't know (who
>>>> usually vastly outspans them in education experience and even employment)
>>>> and attempt to help by directing them into the wrong direction.  This
>>>> disrepectful approach, while well meaning, is based on an arrogance and
>>>> grandiocity that is not matched by either their suggestions or their
>>>> ability.  They never ask the person they attach themselves to, if they would
>>>> like some help or happily attempt to play with them.  This is commonly seen
>>>> by women who are stereotyped and/or dominated and keeps women introverts
>>>> from interacting in labs and groups.
>>>>
>>>> 6) Mr. Did you Know?
>>>>
>>>> This person dives happily in and expands any endeavor they are exposed
>>>> to.  Their enthusiam is infectious as they look into and communicate with
>>>> each head in their circle of hearing, and intiates non-hierarchial happy
>>>> fulll duplex PLAY.
>>>>
>>>> 7) Mr. I Can!
>>>>
>>>> This attendee is the one who does all the single tasks that someone
>>>> needs to do, often without most of the other PLUG people even noticing.  He
>>>> adjusts the video resolution for the overhead for the presentation laptop in
>>>> a slick teamwork concentric way, without, mind you, any great huge
>>>> announcement that he is the only one who knows how to do it.  If another,
>>>> like #5 above attempts to step in, he deftly and politely sidesteps the
>>>> intrusion.
>>>>
>>>> 8) Mr.  Devils' Advocate Question Man:
>>>>
>>>> This person usually asks all the pertinant questions to assist to flesh
>>>> out a subject for others.  It's not that he doesn't know, he just wants to
>>>> make sure a full discussion of the subject matter has occurred for others.
>>>> Clueless PLUG people sometimes attempt to take him aside or talk down to him
>>>> after he has performed these important functions.
>>>>
>>>> 9) Mr. Exploitation:
>>>>
>>>> This person skews all communications to his (choose one):
>>>>
>>>> a) Consulting endeavor
>>>> b) Security endeavor
>>>> c) Sales gig
>>>> d) Training endeavor
>>>>
>>>> They exclude (or actually poo-poo use of or) mention of the long list of
>>>> other FOSS tools, library materials and online test preparation guides.
>>>> While all PLUG members have a variety of skills, this person fails to
>>>> interact in the true spirit of free and open source.
>>>>
>>>> 10) Mr. Hacker:
>>>>
>>>> These people actually sit back and talk nice to you, while actually
>>>> attempting to gain access or damage to your equipment.  They are usually
>>>> swiftly caught, however they generally show up somewhere else with their
>>>> ettercap and wicrack.   Unfortunately, they are often successful.
>>>>
>>>> 11)  Mr. Aphasia:
>>>>
>>>> They people are so vastly intelligent via written materials and
>>>> understanding, but cannot communicate or complete in useless stand around
>>>> and argue verbal sessions (with #1 above).  They are focused on doing, and
>>>> doing very very well.  They generally quietly endue all the other annoying
>>>> types and sit back and take in the information, at some deep level (like all
>>>> of us) lonely for others like themselves.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think you hit most of the stereotypes :)
>>> GREAT STUFF!
>>>
>>> This fits more in the workplace:
>>> 12)  Mr. Make it Up:
>>>
>>> These people when presented with a situation that they don't understand
>>> pretend they know what they're doing in the hopes that they can figure it
>>> out before they're caught.  They'll say things like "Sure you can have a 2
>>> million row Access database no problem!" without ever having seen one that
>>> large.  Their goal is to ensure no one finds out how little real experience
>>> they really have and always have a plausible excuse when they fail so that
>>> someone else is always to blame.  This kind of person will often get a task
>>> 90% done and hand it off to another to take the fall when it doesn't work.
>>>
>>
>> Oh!  Yes!  They know that management has no clue whatsoever.
>>
>> There are a few other purely work related types {(like Mr. (Ms) Never
>> Write Documentation Email [for fear how little I know will be discovered])
>> (Mr. HoverMan [if I protect what I did or setup, no-one can replace me,
>> secrets = success; if someone can do it also, I consider them a threat])....
>>
>> Laugh!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> I am not sure where I fit. I am all over the FOSS world in some places I am
> the fluttering newb but I know how to google so they don't hate me too bad..
> Other places I can be the elitist a-hole but usualy in fun... if you can
> make it past the sarcasm and rhetoric you will probably be helped
> successfully. I can be seen as a troll in some circles. I work for a company
> built around FOSS so some places I may be the corporate tool.  I think
> though there are those who singularly fit in one of these holes that a
> majority probably spread across this depending on the operating variables.
>
> Regards,
>
> James Finstrom
>
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