your the newb eliteist troublemaker? On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, James Finstrom wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:10 AM, JD Austin wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Lisa Kachold >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> After interacting in PLUG events over the last 3 years here, teaching at >>>> freegeek.org and running the POWUG for 3 years in Oregon while also after >>>> interacting in technology for more than 25 years in the trenches, I have >>>> seen a great deal of bad manners, ineffective competition, and behavior that >>>> leads anywhere but toward free and open discussion and interaction. >>>> >>>> I have also observed interaction styles and personality types that save >>>> a group with their fun approach, easy going nature and humanism. >>>> >>>> As you read these you might try not to descend to black and white >>>> thinking, but see what each type ultimately provides to the group >>>> experience. >>>> >>>> I am sure some of these basic types everyone will recognize: >>>> >>>> 1) Mr. OneUpMan: >>>> >>>> Rather than happily bantering along in information exchange, he powers >>>> out to look more Intelligent or rudely talks down to others.  This can >>>> include a swift change of subject to something not even similar to the issue >>>> or subject stream.   He can never just "play" with others, and never ever >>>> asks a question.  He can be so dominating that the whole discussion around >>>> him has to be limited to his experience, his training and his viewpoint. >>>> >>>> 2) Mr. Academic: >>>> >>>> This person will always fill in extraneous details and add additional >>>> information.  He is certain that he is the one and only authority. >>>> Unfortunately, often this limits others from actually doing their own >>>> research (via google or other written documentation). >>>> >>>> 3) Mr. Gossip: >>>> >>>> This person, rather than discuss technology, complete lab exercises or >>>> listen to others, spends a great deal of time discussing others, local >>>> shops, history (skewed by their own resentments and losses or those of their >>>> ally fellows).  Anything this person overhears in first person singular >>>> humanism becomes fodder for their next ten sessions.  They generally do not >>>> show up at events prepared for and interested in technical viewpoints.  They >>>> often take "sides" without evaluating the truth from a distance or without >>>> determining if it's actually their business. >>>> >>>> 4) Mr. Serial Processing: >>>> >>>> This attendee cannot equate and absorb any information that he does not >>>> direct.  He will take great measures of everyone's time by asking directed >>>> questions to one individual about material that was just covered by group >>>> discussion or presentation.  Often his frustration becomes anger whereupon >>>> this person will accuse others of talking down to him.  This is common in >>>> individuals who are experiencing a B vitamin deficiency (that ultimately can >>>> lead to Korsakoff's Psychosis and confabulation) from nutritional issues, >>>> but generally due to daily ingesting large amounts of drugs or alcohol or a >>>> liver or other health disorder. >>>> >>>> 5) Mr. Rude Helper: >>>> >>>> This PLUG attendee will approach someone who they don't know (who >>>> usually vastly outspans them in education experience and even employment) >>>> and attempt to help by directing them into the wrong direction.  This >>>> disrepectful approach, while well meaning, is based on an arrogance and >>>> grandiocity that is not matched by either their suggestions or their >>>> ability.  They never ask the person they attach themselves to, if they would >>>> like some help or happily attempt to play with them.  This is commonly seen >>>> by women who are stereotyped and/or dominated and keeps women introverts >>>> from interacting in labs and groups. >>>> >>>> 6) Mr. Did you Know? >>>> >>>> This person dives happily in and expands any endeavor they are exposed >>>> to.  Their enthusiam is infectious as they look into and communicate with >>>> each head in their circle of hearing, and intiates non-hierarchial happy >>>> fulll duplex PLAY. >>>> >>>> 7) Mr. I Can! >>>> >>>> This attendee is the one who does all the single tasks that someone >>>> needs to do, often without most of the other PLUG people even noticing.  He >>>> adjusts the video resolution for the overhead for the presentation laptop in >>>> a slick teamwork concentric way, without, mind you, any great huge >>>> announcement that he is the only one who knows how to do it.  If another, >>>> like #5 above attempts to step in, he deftly and politely sidesteps the >>>> intrusion. >>>> >>>> 8) Mr.  Devils' Advocate Question Man: >>>> >>>> This person usually asks all the pertinant questions to assist to flesh >>>> out a subject for others.  It's not that he doesn't know, he just wants to >>>> make sure a full discussion of the subject matter has occurred for others. >>>> Clueless PLUG people sometimes attempt to take him aside or talk down to him >>>> after he has performed these important functions. >>>> >>>> 9) Mr. Exploitation: >>>> >>>> This person skews all communications to his (choose one): >>>> >>>> a) Consulting endeavor >>>> b) Security endeavor >>>> c) Sales gig >>>> d) Training endeavor >>>> >>>> They exclude (or actually poo-poo use of or) mention of the long list of >>>> other FOSS tools, library materials and online test preparation guides. >>>> While all PLUG members have a variety of skills, this person fails to >>>> interact in the true spirit of free and open source. >>>> >>>> 10) Mr. Hacker: >>>> >>>> These people actually sit back and talk nice to you, while actually >>>> attempting to gain access or damage to your equipment.  They are usually >>>> swiftly caught, however they generally show up somewhere else with their >>>> ettercap and wicrack.   Unfortunately, they are often successful. >>>> >>>> 11)  Mr. Aphasia: >>>> >>>> They people are so vastly intelligent via written materials and >>>> understanding, but cannot communicate or complete in useless stand around >>>> and argue verbal sessions (with #1 above).  They are focused on doing, and >>>> doing very very well.  They generally quietly endue all the other annoying >>>> types and sit back and take in the information, at some deep level (like all >>>> of us) lonely for others like themselves. >>>> >>> >>> I think you hit most of the stereotypes :) >>> GREAT STUFF! >>> >>> This fits more in the workplace: >>> 12)  Mr. Make it Up: >>> >>> These people when presented with a situation that they don't understand >>> pretend they know what they're doing in the hopes that they can figure it >>> out before they're caught.  They'll say things like "Sure you can have a 2 >>> million row Access database no problem!" without ever having seen one that >>> large.  Their goal is to ensure no one finds out how little real experience >>> they really have and always have a plausible excuse when they fail so that >>> someone else is always to blame.  This kind of person will often get a task >>> 90% done and hand it off to another to take the fall when it doesn't work. >>> >> >> Oh!  Yes!  They know that management has no clue whatsoever. >> >> There are a few other purely work related types {(like Mr. (Ms) Never >> Write Documentation Email [for fear how little I know will be discovered]) >> (Mr. HoverMan [if I protect what I did or setup, no-one can replace me, >> secrets = success; if someone can do it also, I consider them a threat]).... >> >> Laugh! >> >> >> >> >> -- >> (503)754-4452 wiki.obnosis.com >> scientology.obnosis.com >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > I am not sure where I fit. I am all over the FOSS world in some places I am > the fluttering newb but I know how to google so they don't hate me too bad.. > Other places I can be the elitist a-hole but usualy in fun... if you can > make it past the sarcasm and rhetoric you will probably be helped > successfully. I can be seen as a troll in some circles. I work for a company > built around FOSS so some places I may be the corporate tool.  I think > though there are those who singularly fit in one of these holes that a > majority probably spread across this depending on the operating variables. > > Regards, > > James Finstrom > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss