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http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/ptech/01/16/virus.downadup/index.html?iref=mpst
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I always wonder about people who dares to trust private information to M$.
Never mind people who "owns" "pirate" copies...
I must be nuts, I've been a happy Linux user for the las 5 years an
counting...
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> Subject: RE: OT: Redmond
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:04:22 -0700
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> And lets not forget about DRM and the logs that Vista/Win7
> will be keeping.
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> I can't wait for DRM, it's mind boggling trying to make
> decisions of what I want to watch or listen to, DRM takes those hard decisions
> out of my hands and tells me I shouldn't be watching or listening to, this will
> make my life so much easier.
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> And if one of those nasty unallowed files does sneak
> through, and I forget about it, win 7s hidden log files will make sure no one
> else does.
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> It just make life so much easier
> :-)
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> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Joe
> Fleming
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:07 PM
> To: Main
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> Subject: Re: OT: Redmond
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> I don't know that they are specifically targeting
> that market. I mean, most of the netbooks run vista already. Run over the Fry's
> if you don't believe me..... all of their netbooks on display are running vista.
> It was enough to make me not want to buy any of them, but I digress. I've read
> the m$ has claimed that the reason most of them can't is because of the lack of
> storage space, a problem that 7 clearly doesn't solve.
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> As for the storage
> space, my Ubuntu install is using about 10GB right now. Of course, that's with
> an office suite, a webserver, a few websites, my email, a bunch of pictures and
> documents accumulated over the 2 years it's been installed (over 3GB in my home
> directory right now)...... that's kind of the same, right? I mean, kinda,
> right?
>
> For the life of me I can't understand how the hell they use up so
> much space for JUST the operating system! As an aside, I read that IE8 uses more
> memory that the whole of XP too. Crazy.
>
> -Joe
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> keith smith
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> So can we speculate that M$ is making Vista/win7 less 
>         resource intensive so it can compete in the netbook 
>         environment. 

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> I understand it takes up about 10 Gigs of 
>         space.   

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> Would be nice to have an O/S that requires less and 
>         is more efficient.  Maybe we can recycle some old hardware 
>         :) 

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> Keith Smith
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> --- On Fri, 1/16/09,
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>         Josh Coffman <> 
>         wrote: 

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>         From: 
>           Josh Coffman <>
> Subject: 
>           Re: OT: Redmond
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
> Date: 
>           Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:59 AM 

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>           From what I hear, and this is from .Net devs who 
>           are running win7, its described as "Vista without the crap". It 
>           performs nearly as fast as WinXP and with far lighter hardware 
>           requirements than Vista. (which isn't hard)  From the screenshots 
>           I've seen, it has a lighter look and feel that Vista, but that's just 
>           "make-up".  I'm going to make a vmware machine with it so I'll 
>           see for myself.  Since it will be on the same machine (mac) as my 
>           WinXP vm (which I do use a lot), I'll be able to compare them 
>           easily. 

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> Vista was a near daily frustration, either I've gotten 
>           used to the pain or its gotten a little less painful. Probably both. I 
>           still don't like Vista. I have to deal with it though. So I hope Win7 
>           is better, a lot better, because windows a part of my job.  

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> As 
>           an aside, I use Vista, WinXP, and Mac OSX a lot. Ubuntu holds itws own 
>           againts all of them. I've read some people think Win7 is a linux 
>           killer (speaking of the netbook market). I don't buy that at all. 

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> -j
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>           On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Joe Fleming 
>           <> 
>           wrote: 

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>             I'm really curious what all the fuss over 
>             windows 7 is all about. I mean, it's just vista with a few changes, 
>             and from what I can tell those changes are pretty small. I always 
>             think it's funny seeing sites talk about how bad vista is and how 
>             much better 7 is, considering it's really nothing more than a point 
>             release/service pack with a new name. Apparently m$ actually DOES 
>             know how to play the marketing game. It'll be interesting to see how 
>             it's received by consumers and the press when it's finally released 
>             I guess. Me, I still don't have any problem running XP; works 
>             beautifully in VirtualBox ;). 

>
> -Joe
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> James 
>             Finstrom wrote: 
>             I like to imagine it is because I am 
>               important or that its because I went to church with many Microsoft 
>               cube gnomes when I lived in Washington but none of these things 
>               are true simply because I am on a Microsoft Spam list I got an 
>               invitation and license to download and play with Windows 7 beta. 
>               So let me share the expierience and overview so far I like things 
>               with the word free even if it is only as in beer and only for a 
>               short time, Anyhow with fear and the smell of danger that 
>               acompanies all things that say Microsoft and Beta in the same 
>               typography I clicked the shiny banner answered a few questions and 
>               got a key + link.  the minimum requirements say 1Gig ram and 
>               128M video  and blah blah something something okay whatever 
>               click.... Anyhow the download comes up says this could take 
>               several days depending on your provider and the download size 
>               is...... 2.44 GIG holy redhat batman I need to go buy a dvd to 
>               burn this down to, well so much for free. Anyhow it is chewing up 
>               some bandwith that can be better allocated but I am going to grab 
>               it if for nothing else just to see if http://xkcd.com/528/  is 
>               true... 

>
> James Finstrom
> Rhino Equipment 
>               Corp. 

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