http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/ptech/01/16/virus.downadup/index.html?iref=mpst oryview I always wonder about people who dares to trust private information to M$. Never mind people who "owns" "pirate" copies... I must be nuts, I've been a happy Linux user for the las 5 years an counting... ET Lisa Kachold writes: > > Devil's Advocate Day: > > http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/2008/06/at-least-we-dont-have-any-viruses.html > http://linux-haters-redux.blogspot.com/2008/11/why-linux-is-not-more-secure-than.html > > www.Obnosis.com | http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday of Each Month Noon - 3PM > > From: bob.elzer@gmail.com > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: RE: OT: Redmond > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:04:22 -0700 > > > > > > > > > And lets not forget about DRM and the logs that Vista/Win7 > will be keeping. > > I can't wait for DRM, it's mind boggling trying to make > decisions of what I want to watch or listen to, DRM takes those hard decisions > out of my hands and tells me I shouldn't be watching or listening to, this will > make my life so much easier. > > And if one of those nasty unallowed files does sneak > through, and I forget about it, win 7s hidden log files will make sure no one > else does. > > It just make life so much easier > :-) > > > > > > From: > plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Joe > Fleming > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:07 PM > To: Main > PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: OT: Redmond > > > I don't know that they are specifically targeting > that market. I mean, most of the netbooks run vista already. Run over the Fry's > if you don't believe me..... all of their netbooks on display are running vista. > It was enough to make me not want to buy any of them, but I digress. I've read > the m$ has claimed that the reason most of them can't is because of the lack of > storage space, a problem that 7 clearly doesn't solve. > > As for the storage > space, my Ubuntu install is using about 10GB right now. Of course, that's with > an office suite, a webserver, a few websites, my email, a bunch of pictures and > documents accumulated over the 2 years it's been installed (over 3GB in my home > directory right now)...... that's kind of the same, right? I mean, kinda, > right? > > For the life of me I can't understand how the hell they use up so > much space for JUST the operating system! As an aside, I read that IE8 uses more > memory that the whole of XP too. Crazy. > > -Joe > > keith smith > wrote: > > > > > > So can we speculate that M$ is making Vista/win7 less > resource intensive so it can compete in the netbook > environment. > > I understand it takes up about 10 Gigs of > space. > > Would be nice to have an O/S that requires less and > is more efficient. Maybe we can recycle some old hardware > :) > > > ------------------------ > Keith Smith > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/16/09, > > Josh Coffman > wrote: > > From: > Josh Coffman > Subject: > Re: OT: Redmond > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: > Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:59 AM > > > From what I hear, and this is from .Net devs who > are running win7, its described as "Vista without the crap". It > performs nearly as fast as WinXP and with far lighter hardware > requirements than Vista. (which isn't hard) From the screenshots > I've seen, it has a lighter look and feel that Vista, but that's just > "make-up". I'm going to make a vmware machine with it so I'll > see for myself. Since it will be on the same machine (mac) as my > WinXP vm (which I do use a lot), I'll be able to compare them > easily. > > Vista was a near daily frustration, either I've gotten > used to the pain or its gotten a little less painful. Probably both. I > still don't like Vista. I have to deal with it though. So I hope Win7 > is better, a lot better, because windows a part of my job. > > As > an aside, I use Vista, WinXP, and Mac OSX a lot. Ubuntu holds itws own > againts all of them. I've read some people think Win7 is a linux > killer (speaking of the netbook market). I don't buy that at all. > > > -j > > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Joe Fleming > > wrote: > > > I'm really curious what all the fuss over > windows 7 is all about. I mean, it's just vista with a few changes, > and from what I can tell those changes are pretty small. I always > think it's funny seeing sites talk about how bad vista is and how > much better 7 is, considering it's really nothing more than a point > release/service pack with a new name. Apparently m$ actually DOES > know how to play the marketing game. It'll be interesting to see how > it's received by consumers and the press when it's finally released > I guess. Me, I still don't have any problem running XP; works > beautifully in VirtualBox ;). > > -Joe > > James > Finstrom wrote: > I like to imagine it is because I am > important or that its because I went to church with many Microsoft > cube gnomes when I lived in Washington but none of these things > are true simply because I am on a Microsoft Spam list I got an > invitation and license to download and play with Windows 7 beta. > So let me share the expierience and overview so far I like things > with the word free even if it is only as in beer and only for a > short time, Anyhow with fear and the smell of danger that > acompanies all things that say Microsoft and Beta in the same > typography I clicked the shiny banner answered a few questions and > got a key + link. the minimum requirements say 1Gig ram and > 128M video and blah blah something something okay whatever > click.... Anyhow the download comes up says this could take > several days depending on your provider and the download size > is...... 2.44 GIG holy redhat batman I need to go buy a dvd to > burn this down to, well so much for free. Anyhow it is chewing up > some bandwith that can be better allocated but I am going to grab > it if for nothing else just to see if http://xkcd.com/528/ is > true... > > James Finstrom > Rhino Equipment > Corp. > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss > mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To > subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. 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