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Author: Joe Fleming
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Subject: Re: OT: Redmond






I don't know that they are specifically targeting
that market. I mean, most of the netbooks run vista already. Run over
the Fry's if you don't believe me..... all of their netbooks on display
are running vista. It was enough to make me not want to buy any of
them, but I digress. I've read the m$ has claimed that the reason most
of them can't is because of the lack of storage space, a problem that 7
clearly doesn't solve.

As for the storage space, my Ubuntu install is using about 10GB right
now. Of course, that's with an office suite, a webserver, a few
websites, my email, a bunch of pictures and documents accumulated over
the 2 years it's been installed (over 3GB in my home directory right
now)...... that's kind of the same, right? I mean, kinda, right?

For the life of me I can't understand how the hell they use up so much
space for JUST the operating system! As an aside, I read that IE8 uses
more memory that the whole of XP too. Crazy.

-Joe

keith smith wrote:





So can we speculate that M$ is making Vista/win7 less resource
intensive so it can compete in the netbook environment.

I understand it takes up about 10 Gigs of space. 

Would be nice to have an O/S that requires less and is more efficient. 
Maybe we can recycle some old hardware :)


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Keith Smith




--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Josh Coffman <>
wrote:
From:
Josh Coffman <>
Subject: Re: OT: Redmond
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
<>
Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:59 AM

From what I hear, and this is from
.Net devs who are running win7, its described as "Vista without the
crap". It performs nearly as fast as WinXP and with far lighter
hardware requirements than Vista. (which isn't hard)  From the
screenshots I've seen, it has a lighter look and feel that Vista, but
that's just "make-up".  I'm going to make a vmware machine with it so
I'll see for myself.  Since it will be on the same machine (mac) as my
WinXP vm (which I do use a lot), I'll be able to compare them easily.

Vista was a near daily frustration, either I've gotten used to the pain
or its gotten a little less painful. Probably both. I still don't like
Vista. I have to deal with it though. So I hope Win7 is better, a lot
better, because windows a part of my job.

As an aside, I use Vista, WinXP, and Mac OSX a lot. Ubuntu holds itws
own againts all of them. I've read some people think Win7 is a linux
killer (speaking of the netbook market). I don't buy that at all.

-j

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Joe
Fleming <>
wrote:

I'm really curious what all the
fuss over windows 7
is all about. I mean, it's just vista with a few changes, and from what
I can tell those changes are pretty small. I always think it's funny
seeing sites talk about how bad vista is and how much better 7 is,
considering it's really nothing more than a point release/service pack
with a new name. Apparently m$ actually DOES know how to play the
marketing game. It'll be interesting to see how it's received by
consumers and the press when it's finally released I guess. Me, I still
don't have any problem running XP; works beautifully in VirtualBox ;).

-Joe

James Finstrom wrote:
I like to imagine it is because I
am important or that its
because I went to church with many Microsoft cube gnomes when I lived
in Washington but none of these things are true simply because I am on
a Microsoft Spam list I got an invitation and license to download and
play with Windows 7 beta. So let me share the expierience and overview
so far I like things with the word free even if it is only as in beer
and only for a short time, Anyhow with fear and the smell of danger
that acompanies all things that say Microsoft and Beta in the same
typography I clicked the shiny banner answered a few questions and got
a key + link.  the minimum requirements say 1Gig ram and 128M video 
and blah blah something something okay whatever click.... Anyhow the
download comes up says this could take several days depending on your
provider and the download size is...... 2.44 GIG holy redhat batman I
need to go buy a dvd to burn this down to, well so much for free.
Anyhow it is chewing up some bandwith that can be better allocated but
I am going to grab it if for nothing else just to see if http://xkcd.com/528/ 
is true...


James Finstrom
Rhino Equipment Corp.


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