there's an old American proverb:
"Wrestle with a pig and you get !@#$ all over you."
-jmz
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Erich Newell <
erich.newell@gmail.com> wrote:
> Couldn't you have been just a little pigheaded? I was looking forward to a
> good tussle. Ruin my fun. :p
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Erich Newell <erich.newell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Part 1:
> > > Ok. I just took the time to go back and re-read the entire thread. I
> > > don't understand what anyone is irritated / hurt / angry / annoyed at.
> > > Someone please explain to me.
> >
> > Erich,
> >
> > Im certainly not irritated, but I got the clear indication that I am
> > being blamed for being 'confrontational'. Remember, I did not even
> > instigate that argument!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Part 2:
> > > Joshua - Just to stoke the fire a little....Did it occur to you that
> > > maybe the creator of the app (not to speak on your behalf Kristian) may
> not
> > > care about the legality of his use and may even be civilly disobedient
> > > intentionally?
> >
> > Perhaps, but as I noted the latter part of my argument had nothing
> > to do with the author of the app. It had to do with a statement
> > concerning the legality of data scraping, that was not only highly
> > misleading, but had zero references. Misleading the readers of this
> > list in such a way could even lead to legal problems for them. That
> > was the motive to my argument. If there is some crime in that, I must
> > be have some kind of alien ethos that is totally incompatible with
> > Joseph or Kevin.
> >
> > If the goal here is civil disobedience, more power to him! But I
> > think it was made clear that the understanding of the rules being
> > broken was minimal to start. Lets not confuse Civil Disobedience with
> > lack of civilization ;) .
> >
> > honestly I don't think the real problem here is one or two people
> > ruining the list for others, I think its about the unwillingness to
> > accept change. If one particular person is annoying you, its very
> > easy to fix the problem without having to unsubscribe. PLUG is a
> > great group and has a long history, and I applaud each and member of
> > it for everything they put in. Although perhaps Darrin doesn't think
> > I give him enough respect, I do follow his comments here (or did) and
> > I do recognize his thorough knowledge of BSD. And just remember, if
> > PLUG does not embrace action and change, its going to stagnate and
> > die.
> >
> > sincerely,
> >
> > - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/
> >
> >
> >
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