there's an old American proverb: "Wrestle with a pig and you get !@#$ all over you." -jmz On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Erich Newell wrote: > Couldn't you have been just a little pigheaded? I was looking forward to a > good tussle. Ruin my fun. :p > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Joshua Zeidner > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Erich Newell > wrote: > > > Part 1: > > > Ok. I just took the time to go back and re-read the entire thread. I > > > don't understand what anyone is irritated / hurt / angry / annoyed at. > > > Someone please explain to me. > > > > Erich, > > > > Im certainly not irritated, but I got the clear indication that I am > > being blamed for being 'confrontational'. Remember, I did not even > > instigate that argument! > > > > > > > > > > Part 2: > > > Joshua - Just to stoke the fire a little....Did it occur to you that > > > maybe the creator of the app (not to speak on your behalf Kristian) may > not > > > care about the legality of his use and may even be civilly disobedient > > > intentionally? > > > > Perhaps, but as I noted the latter part of my argument had nothing > > to do with the author of the app. It had to do with a statement > > concerning the legality of data scraping, that was not only highly > > misleading, but had zero references. Misleading the readers of this > > list in such a way could even lead to legal problems for them. That > > was the motive to my argument. If there is some crime in that, I must > > be have some kind of alien ethos that is totally incompatible with > > Joseph or Kevin. > > > > If the goal here is civil disobedience, more power to him! But I > > think it was made clear that the understanding of the rules being > > broken was minimal to start. Lets not confuse Civil Disobedience with > > lack of civilization ;) . > > > > honestly I don't think the real problem here is one or two people > > ruining the list for others, I think its about the unwillingness to > > accept change. If one particular person is annoying you, its very > > easy to fix the problem without having to unsubscribe. PLUG is a > > great group and has a long history, and I applaud each and member of > > it for everything they put in. Although perhaps Darrin doesn't think > > I give him enough respect, I do follow his comments here (or did) and > > I do recognize his thorough knowledge of BSD. And just remember, if > > PLUG does not embrace action and change, its going to stagnate and > > die. > > > > sincerely, > > > > - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > -- > > "A man is defined by the questions that he asks; and the way he goes about > finding the answers to those questions is the way he goes through life." > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss