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Author: Joshua Zeidner
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Subject: Re: OT: Google Comes Clean on Microsoft
On 5/11/07, <> wrote:
>
> I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I love that company. :D




Hey Tuna, so what do you think about Google colluding with the NSA?
true/false? to be quite honest I find this giddy Google enthusiasm to be a
bit disconcerting. But I better not talk too loudly or Ill get erased from
the search engine :) .

Top 100 alternative search engines:


http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/top_100_alternative_search_engines.php

To Shawn, I wouldn't worry too much about M$ at this point. Google is now
the rampant lion, and M$ is the supplicant. M$ is making one stupid move
after the next ( Silverlight? ), because their new position has not really
sunk in yet. Their failures really come down to their poor internal
management. But one thing I've learned... complaining on message boards
gets you absolutely nothing :) .



-jmz




> I am aware of that, I was just using the articles title and info from
> > it to post it. I am just glad someone else is going to start taking
> > some more of M$'s money and they are Linux friendly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/11/07, Joshua Zeidner <> wrote:
> >> Shawn,
> >>
> >> Google may be after the 'market share' of Microsoft, but the two
> >> companies
> >> count their assets quite differently.
> >>
> >> Microsoft's asset was their hold on the OS market and the control
> that
> >> this granted them in a variety of venues. Google, on the other hand
> >> counts
> >> it's primary asset as its /usage information/ of its applications, and
> >> the
> >> actual document data itself( which you sign away the rights to in your
> >> user
> >> agreement ). Being that all its software is net-based and hosted
> >> remotely,
> >> Google is aware of *every single click you make*. This gives them
> >> strategic
> >> information of development investment/return on a scale that makes
> >> Microsoft
> >> look like a bunch of useless wimps. For instance, if 5 million people
> >> start
> >> using the email feature for Google Reader, Google knows with great
> >> accuracy
> >> that expanding this feature set is a good investment. These kinds of
> >> decisions were made intuitively in older development paradigms. It
> >> seems
> >> that there are really only a handful of apps that do not want to live
> on
> >> the
> >> web, Photoshop seems like one of the lasting strongholds of
> >> desktop-based
> >> software*.
> >>
> >> Google's recent acquisition of Double Click makes their surveillance
> >> even
> >> more pervasive and complete as Double Click features ads in a great
> >> number
> >> of web sites. As a result of this recent acquisition, some are even
> >> calling
> >> for Anti-Trust action [1].
> >>
> >> This also introduces some new business dimensions that did not exist
> >> before. In the world run by Google, privacy is the most valued
> premium.
> >> Many do not understand how important maintaining privacy is in this new
> >> world. [2] Whatever your plans may be for world domination, exposing
> >> them
> >> to Google puts every investment firm with bottomless pockets one step
> >> ahead
> >> of whatever technical genius you may (think you) possess. Also of
> great
> >> concern is the position that companies such as Google gain over
> >> censorship
> >> mechanisms. I know of many web sites and blogs that have been removed
> >> from
> >> Google on baseless grounds of 'spam' or 'hate speech' etc. It is a
> >> great
> >> illusion that Google is wholly impartial to the content that it
> indexes.
> >>
> >> The biggest issues by far for the near future will be our laws for
> >> privacy
> >> and discrimination, which will be greatly emphasized by these new
> >> progressions. Its takes a combination of vision and technical
> knowledge
> >> to
> >> fully understand the extent to which equality is compromised by these
> >> new
> >> technologies. Also there have been some claims that Google is working
> >> with
> >> government agencies such as the NSA- can anyone here qualify these
> >> claims?
> >> [3]
> >>
> >>
> >> -jmz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> * as I have stated before, Adobe is a key company in the new IT
> >> landscape,
> >> because apps like Flash are acting as a pivot between the new world of
> >> online 'rich media apps' and the traditional desktop OS.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/article1687147.ece
> >>
> >> [2] interesting tech:
> >> http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org/index.php?page=home&lang=en
> >>
> >> [3] http://www.google-watch.org/jobad.html
> >>
> >>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/12/12/DI2005121201136.html
> >>      http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2006/10/8041/
> >>      ( I do not vouch for these sources )

> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/11/07, Shawn Badger <> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=22241&hed=Google+Comes+Clean+on+Microsoft+
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > A few excerts form the article:
> >> >
> >> > "Google today officially confirmed what many analysts have been
> saying
> >> > for months: the Mountain View, California-based search leader is
> going
> >> > after the software market in direct competition with Microsoft"
> >> >
> >> > "In a question and answer session with shareholders, one woman asked
> >> > Mr. Schmidt and Google co-founder Larry Page how they would avoid
> >> > becoming known as "the new Microsoft, and not in flattering terms."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Mr. Page added, "It's natural to be concerned about it… We're not the
> >> > same kind of company" as others out there, Mr. Page said. "Our
> >> > engineers all run Linux. It's free. You can hack on it. It's deep in
> >> > our DNA""
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