There's always the 'granular approach'
type 'about:config' in the address bar.
You can filter with a word like 'proxy'
Craig
On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 15:05 -0700, der.hans wrote:
> Am 04. Jan, 2007 schwätzte Dazed_75 so:
>
> > I think you actually made the argument that they ARE mutually exclusive. At
>
> Hmm, not the point I was trying to make.
>
> Default to a direct connection to the Internet or automagically detected
> proxy.
>
> Then, for those of us that need to use several proxies, need to be able to
> turn them on and off and whatever, have an advanced menu where I can
> enable those config sections.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
> > least if you accept that the majority of the herd does not want to make
> > those choices. But in any case, I only said almost mutually exclusive
> > because I agree that a set of "sane" defaults is best so that even those
> > folks have to make some decision and the rest of us can make ours. IOW,
> > nobody gets a product that is initially ideal to them but does get the
> > ability to make it the way they prefer.
> >
> > On 1/3/07, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 03. Jan, 2007 schwätzte Dazed_75 so:
> >>
> >> > I suspect the issue may be more related to the extensions themselves. I
> >> did
> >> > the update before seeing this thread. But when I did see this I looked
> >> and
> >> > the extensions window shows all 6 that I use but three of them show a
> >> button
> >> > for an update being available.
> >>
> >> The extensions didn't even show up. I was expecting that I might have to
> >> update one or two, but wasn't expecting them to disappear entirely.
> >>
> >> > Jery, I am beginning to suspect that a part of M$ success and some of
> >> the
> >> > changing directions in Linux is because a LOT of people WANT to be
> >> stupid
> >> > when it comes to computers. What I want is the ability to make the
> >> choices
> >> > and that is the rub since so many people want the "freedom" not to have
> >> to
> >> > make choices. The bad thing is that the two approaches are almost
> >> mutually
> >>
> >> I think they aren't mutually exclusive.
> >>
> >> > exclusive. To service the ones who want to be "stupid about computers"
> >> it
> >> > is necessary to shield them even from the fact there is a choice to
> >> make.
> >> > If you don't do that you will not appeal to the masses. If you do it
> >> you
> >> > annoy the techies for whom you have made choices without their consent.
> >>
> >> They need to sane defaults. It would also be nice if we had ways of
> >> universally disabling certain mechanisms. The javascript preferences
> >> are great. I'd also like to ban extensions from having network
> >> connectivity, or at least from having network connectivity to someplace
> >> other than the web page being viewed.
> >>
> >> > Maybe all OS's and applications need a Smart/Dumb button the user can
> >> press
> >> > anytime to expose/hide the option choices. Ooooh, and the
> >> > designer/developer job just got a bunch harder. How about a
> >> SmartER/DumbER
> >> > button? <wink>
> >>
> >> Software needs sane defaults with a simple interface. It also needs the
> >> ability to get to a more detailed interface if you want it.
> >>
> >> Not everybody needs a way to disable the blink tag, but I'm betting most
> >> of us on the list want to make sure it's dead :).
> >>
> >> Most people don't need a complex proxy setup, so no need to have that open
> >> by default. For those of us who need it, there could be a mechanism to
> >> enable more details.
> >>
> >> When it comes down to it we all need more complexity sometimes, but
> >> generally we want it to at least work well by default. I have no interest
> >> in getting to know the intricacies of what can be done with a word
> >> processor, so I want OpenOffice.org to just work and to work securely.
> >>
> >> vim, OTOH, I want to be able to customize in 3 different languages and
> >> have automatic adjustments based on the phase of the moon...
> >>
> >> ciao,
> >>
> >> der.hans
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