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Author: keith smith
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Subject: Re: PLUG site incident last night
Interesting stuff. I'm sorry I meant virtualization which may not even be a word.....



Dan Lund <> wrote: It uses the tuntap interface... which (without a simple modification
of kernel source) is limited to 8 or 9 IP addresses. I've modified
the kernel to support more once when I needed 12+ interfaces.
what do you mean by "Actualization"? It's slow at disk access at
times but it's great for light duty servers like web servers and samba
servers.
You start it up with a certain allocation of memory. I use tmpfs to
speed up the disk access. It's not mature enough to replace
heavy-hitter servers yet, IMHO. I have a 2 proc Xeon server with 8gb
ram and 6 scsi disks in a raid5 array, and things ran semi-decently
with all of the instances operational. (like 13 or so)
Would i recommend someone relying on it for production machines in a
mission critical envionment? Not really. That being said, my
production corporate web-server runs user-mode-linux and has for the
past year.

On 1/2/07, keith smith wrote:
> Interesting concept, however if it has its own nic instead of just it's own
> IP you are limited to 3 or 4 right?
>
> Aslo I read that it is not good at actualization yet ... and it is kinda
> slow.
>
> How do you use it. Sounds interesting from what little i have read. Ca you
> allot resources... came you over book resources? IE burstable RAM or soft
> quotas?
>
>
>
> Dan Lund wrote:
> Well, Virtual Private Servers is another technology that is not quite
> a fully virtualized setup, but I believe that's the jist.
> User-mode linux is a kernel booting as an application, and runs
> everything under it's own memory addressing. The end result is a
> fully virtual machine running as an app with a nic of it's own and
> (virtual) console of it's own.
> I use it alot at work, it's very handy to split a server into several
> machines. (ala vmware, but free, and not OS independent)
>
> -- quote --
> Are you talking Virtual Private Servers?
>
> On 1/2/07, keith smith wrote:
> > Are you talking Virtual Private Servers?
> >
> > Dan Lund wrote: Or a User-mode Linux hosted
>
> > site could be an option.
> > There are a few places around nowadays that offer full "instances" of
> > OS's in a User-mode Linux environment for this purpose.
> > Of course the limiting factor is funding. I don't believe that most
> > individuals on this list are lacking the skills to run their own
> > server. Unless I'm greatly mistaken on the skill level....
> >
> > --Dan
> >
> > On 1/2/07, keith smith wrote:
> > > A lot to do about shared hosting. Most use shared hosting. Most lack the
> > > skills to run their own server. Most lack the funds to own their own
> > > server.
> > >
> > > Having one's own server allows for complete customization and the
> > > installation of some software not available through a shared hosting
> > > provider.
> > >
> > > Shared hosting comes with it's challenges in getting what you want the
> way
> > > you want it.
> > >
> > > Having said all that I think having PLUG on shared hosting has a
> positive
> > > side. It could turn out to be a learning tool for everyone.
> > >
> > > I read today the Tux Mag is no more. Phoenix is quickly becoming the
> next
> > > tech mecca, if we are not already.
> > >
> > > I'll bet there is over 500 members on this list. Everyone of us has some
> > > specialized knowledge that relates to Linux.
> > >
> > > We should have literally thousands of pages of how-to's, product
> reviews,
> > > ... ETC
> > >
> > > With all the talent we have here!
> > >
> > > My Point is that the average person has to _live_ with shared hosting.
> > Why
> > > not go with shared hosting for now and journal everything for the world
> to
> > > see. Except anything that would pose a security risk.
> > >
> > > A portal that is of the people and by the people would be second to
> none!
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> >
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