On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 13:03, Donn wrote:
> As a longtime Mandrake user (since version 5) I agree that on previous
> versions, the upgrade process has been error prone and at times
> completely broken. I have, however, successfully upgraded on multiple
> machines from 9.2 to 10.1, from 10.1 to 2006 Powerpack, and from 2006
> to 2007. The only issues with the last were with the new XGL
> functionality in 2007 and these were easily solved by running XFdrake.
>
Donn,
That's good news.
> What version Mandrake are you on? If you are trying to install a new
> email client, have you looked in the PLF repositories (you can use
> easyurpmi to configure your sources if your version supports it) for
> balsa? I am not familiar with balsa, but you may find it there. I also
> suggest you might try Thunderbird since it is a simple matter to
> install using the Tarball from Mozilla and you can use the latest
> version that way.
>
I may try that. I was getting frustrated since I'd already tried a
newer Evolution and Balsa.
> On 10/16/06, Eric Shubes <plug@shubes.net> wrote:
> I agree that yum is very nice. I've even done major upgrades
> (RH9->CentOS4)
> using it.
>
> Vaughn, which version of Mandrake are you using? According to
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7448, Mandrake 9.2 has it
> on the
> distribution disk in contrib/i586/yum-2.0.1-1mdk.noarch.rpm.
> See article for
> more details.
>
Eric,
Couldn't recall - it must have been 9 because I couldn't find yum in the
package manager.
> Stick with it. Once you get yum going, I think you'll love it.
Yes, I would like to get it working. And please excuse my earlier
complaining. But you must admit, it's a bit of irony that a product
that's supposed to make installation easy is difficult to install!
:-) Maybe an older version will work for me.
Thanks guys for your suggestions.
Vaughn
>
> Vaughn Treude wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 07:22, JD Austin wrote:
> >> Fore redhat I install both yum and apt to get out of
> dependency
> >> nightmares pretty painlessly.
> >> I'm not sure of the mandrake repositories out there.
> >> The dag repository for redhat stays pretty up to date
> >> :http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/
> >> Here's one set of yum repositories I found for mandrake:
> >> http://speculation.org/garrick/yum.conf
> >>
> >> JD
> >>
> >
> > JD,
> > Thanks for the feedback. I have heard about yum, so I
> decided on your
> > suggestion to try it, and downloaded the latest version, yum
> 3.0.
> > Unfortunately, it's a bit baffling. To begin with, the
> INSTALL file was
> > not encouraging:
> >
> > For usage information, please see the README.
> >
> > run make
> > run make install, if you're a masochist.
> >
> > you're better off making an rpm and installing it
> >
> > If "make install" is so bad, why do they provide it? And
> how should I
> > make this rpm? And what will making the rpm accomplish? I
> haven't a
> > clue! OK, so I tried the "make install" anyway. It _seemed_
> to work.
> > Running yum gives this message:
> >
> > There was a problem importing one of the Python
> modules
> > required to run yum. The error leading to this problem
> was:
> >
> > No module named yum
> >
> > That's very interesting, since yum is what I allegedly just
> installed.
> > Perhaps I don't have the right version of python (mine is
> 2.3.3) - seems
> > like the most likely explanation for this snafu but I don't
> see any
> > documentation in the yum source which tells me what version
> I need.
> >
> > In the FAQ file, I found this interesting tidbit:
> >
> > If you are getting a message that yum itself is the
> missing module then
> > you probably installed it incorreclty (or installed the
> source rpm
> > using make/make install). If possible, find a prebuilt rpm
> that will
> > work for your system like one from Fedora or CentOS. Or, you
> can
> > download the srpm and do a
> >
> > rpmbuild --rebuild yum*.src.rpm
> >
> > I didn't find any prebuild rpm's for my system, but I did
> see a source
> > RPM, which I downloaded, and I tried that rpmbuild. It
> spews a lot of
> > messages, but I can't see that anything actually happened
> under
> > /usr/src/RPM, nor does yum work any differently than
> besfore. Did the
> > previous operation actually modify the yum RPM I
> downloaded? Not sure,
> > but I tried installing it, which produces a tarball in
> > /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES. I unzipped and untarred this and now
> what?
> > Another make and make install? Why not?
> >
> > Nothing's changed, though.
> >
> > My conclusion: I've never seen a more muddled and confusing
> and utterly
> > useuless installation on any open source product!
> >
> > Vaughn
> >
> >
> >
> >> Vaughn Treude wrote:
> >>> Hello everyone:
> >>>
> >>> I've got a Mandrake system I use for my day-to-day
> business. I do not
> >>> want to upgrade it, as it generally works fine and I've
> _never_ had an
> >>> upgrade-type install succeed on Linux, ever (it has always
> hung the
> >>> system - and I've tried it on several machines at several
> times.) My
> >>> Mandrake system's most annoying feature is that its email
> client
> >>> (Evolution 1.4.6) is buggy and has somehow gotten worse;
> I've let my
> >>> mail file get large and now it no longer allows me to
> empty the trash
> >>> folder. I wanted to try a newer version of Evolution, but
> they all have
> >>> too many dependencies; I can't even get the configure
> script to finish.
> >>> Then I remembered someone mentioning Balsa, whose name
> implies "light
> >>> weight", so I thought, this should be easier. I didn't
> have to add a
> >>> lot of libraries to get the configure script to run, but
> the stupid
> >>> thing won't compile, due to missing header files. It
> started out with a
> >>> file that I found in one of the Debian *-dev source
> packages, which then
> >>> required another, and then another. After downloading and
> installing at
> >>> least 20 of these packages, I finally come to a dead end:
> gtkhtml-dev.
> >>> It has versions only for fink, maemo, and
> freebsd. There's supposedly a
> >>> gtkhtml-devel package in the SuSE hierarchy but those
> links to that are
> >>> broken. Does anybody know why a package like this would
> be impossible
> >>> to find with Google? Or can anybody suggest a less
> painful alternative
> >>> email client?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Vaughn
> >>>
>
>
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
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