On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 13:03, Donn wrote: > As a longtime Mandrake user (since version 5) I agree that on previous > versions, the upgrade process has been error prone and at times > completely broken. I have, however, successfully upgraded on multiple > machines from 9.2 to 10.1, from 10.1 to 2006 Powerpack, and from 2006 > to 2007. The only issues with the last were with the new XGL > functionality in 2007 and these were easily solved by running XFdrake. > Donn, That's good news. > What version Mandrake are you on? If you are trying to install a new > email client, have you looked in the PLF repositories (you can use > easyurpmi to configure your sources if your version supports it) for > balsa? I am not familiar with balsa, but you may find it there. I also > suggest you might try Thunderbird since it is a simple matter to > install using the Tarball from Mozilla and you can use the latest > version that way. > I may try that. I was getting frustrated since I'd already tried a newer Evolution and Balsa. > On 10/16/06, Eric Shubes wrote: > I agree that yum is very nice. I've even done major upgrades > (RH9->CentOS4) > using it. > > Vaughn, which version of Mandrake are you using? According to > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7448, Mandrake 9.2 has it > on the > distribution disk in contrib/i586/yum-2.0.1-1mdk.noarch.rpm. > See article for > more details. > Eric, Couldn't recall - it must have been 9 because I couldn't find yum in the package manager. > Stick with it. Once you get yum going, I think you'll love it. Yes, I would like to get it working. And please excuse my earlier complaining. But you must admit, it's a bit of irony that a product that's supposed to make installation easy is difficult to install! :-) Maybe an older version will work for me. Thanks guys for your suggestions. Vaughn > > Vaughn Treude wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 07:22, JD Austin wrote: > >> Fore redhat I install both yum and apt to get out of > dependency > >> nightmares pretty painlessly. > >> I'm not sure of the mandrake repositories out there. > >> The dag repository for redhat stays pretty up to date > >> :http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/ > >> Here's one set of yum repositories I found for mandrake: > >> http://speculation.org/garrick/yum.conf > >> > >> JD > >> > > > > JD, > > Thanks for the feedback. I have heard about yum, so I > decided on your > > suggestion to try it, and downloaded the latest version, yum > 3.0. > > Unfortunately, it's a bit baffling. To begin with, the > INSTALL file was > > not encouraging: > > > > For usage information, please see the README. > > > > run make > > run make install, if you're a masochist. > > > > you're better off making an rpm and installing it > > > > If "make install" is so bad, why do they provide it? And > how should I > > make this rpm? And what will making the rpm accomplish? I > haven't a > > clue! OK, so I tried the "make install" anyway. It _seemed_ > to work. > > Running yum gives this message: > > > > There was a problem importing one of the Python > modules > > required to run yum. The error leading to this problem > was: > > > > No module named yum > > > > That's very interesting, since yum is what I allegedly just > installed. > > Perhaps I don't have the right version of python (mine is > 2.3.3) - seems > > like the most likely explanation for this snafu but I don't > see any > > documentation in the yum source which tells me what version > I need. > > > > In the FAQ file, I found this interesting tidbit: > > > > If you are getting a message that yum itself is the > missing module then > > you probably installed it incorreclty (or installed the > source rpm > > using make/make install). If possible, find a prebuilt rpm > that will > > work for your system like one from Fedora or CentOS. Or, you > can > > download the srpm and do a > > > > rpmbuild --rebuild yum*.src.rpm > > > > I didn't find any prebuild rpm's for my system, but I did > see a source > > RPM, which I downloaded, and I tried that rpmbuild. It > spews a lot of > > messages, but I can't see that anything actually happened > under > > /usr/src/RPM, nor does yum work any differently than > besfore. Did the > > previous operation actually modify the yum RPM I > downloaded? Not sure, > > but I tried installing it, which produces a tarball in > > /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES. I unzipped and untarred this and now > what? > > Another make and make install? Why not? > > > > Nothing's changed, though. > > > > My conclusion: I've never seen a more muddled and confusing > and utterly > > useuless installation on any open source product! > > > > Vaughn > > > > > > > >> Vaughn Treude wrote: > >>> Hello everyone: > >>> > >>> I've got a Mandrake system I use for my day-to-day > business. I do not > >>> want to upgrade it, as it generally works fine and I've > _never_ had an > >>> upgrade-type install succeed on Linux, ever (it has always > hung the > >>> system - and I've tried it on several machines at several > times.) My > >>> Mandrake system's most annoying feature is that its email > client > >>> (Evolution 1.4.6) is buggy and has somehow gotten worse; > I've let my > >>> mail file get large and now it no longer allows me to > empty the trash > >>> folder. I wanted to try a newer version of Evolution, but > they all have > >>> too many dependencies; I can't even get the configure > script to finish. > >>> Then I remembered someone mentioning Balsa, whose name > implies "light > >>> weight", so I thought, this should be easier. I didn't > have to add a > >>> lot of libraries to get the configure script to run, but > the stupid > >>> thing won't compile, due to missing header files. It > started out with a > >>> file that I found in one of the Debian *-dev source > packages, which then > >>> required another, and then another. After downloading and > installing at > >>> least 20 of these packages, I finally come to a dead end: > gtkhtml-dev. > >>> It has versions only for fink, maemo, and > freebsd. There's supposedly a > >>> gtkhtml-devel package in the SuSE hierarchy but those > links to that are > >>> broken. Does anybody know why a package like this would > be impossible > >>> to find with Google? Or can anybody suggest a less > painful alternative > >>> email client? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Vaughn > >>> > > > -- > -Eric 'shubes' > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > Donn > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." > -- Dave Barry > > ______________________________________________________________________ > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss