Am 26. May, 2005 schwätzte Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. so:
> Indian School & I-17 -> 85017
> Anthem Way & I-17 -> 85086
>
> I would attend more events if I did not have to fight traffic to get to the
> east valley (commuter hell!) including Tempe.
Well, if you wait until 18:00 to leave it's not too bad. An hour from
Indian School and I-17 is more than enough time to make the East Valley
meetings. Way more than enough time to make the West Valley meeting at
GCC :). I currently make almost all of the East Valley meetings in 20 to
30 min from Camelback and the 51.
Still a trip home afterwards as well, though.
I know of some other Free Software people up in Cave Creek who don't
really get involved. Maybe we need a way up north meeting of some sort.
I know there are internet cafes in Cave Creek. Heck, meet at someone's
house in Anthem...
> Blurb to ignore...
> It has been interesting to see how East Valley centric views are, being a
> Phoenix native. If something is west of 40th Street many people consider
> the location to be in the west valley. I live in South Flagstaff, I mean
Nah, used to be west of central, now it's west of I-17 :).
> Anthem, and people consider it the West Valley. It is not, it is the north
> valley. I would say anything west of 51st Ave to be West Valley, anything
Anthem is not North Valley, it's South New River ;-).
> east of 48th Street to be East Valley, north of Olive/Dunlap to be North
> Valley, and anything south of Broadway to be South Valley. The farthest
> east I would every be caught living is Tempe, forget Mesa, Gilbert, and
> Chandler. The only good thing in the east valley is the high traffic
> volumes and mistimed lights. It is nice to see venues and money shifting to
> the west and north.
I've been driving overland between the 51 and I-17 a lot recently. Makes
me long for the Tempe and Mesa streets.
> Gilbert
But, but, you could really claim Gilbert is your $HOMEtown :).
ciao,
der.hans
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