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Author: Mikey
Date:  
To: plug-discuss
Subject: switch / ping -b
Well, I found out the address to thjis switch: it is 10.10.10.5
The address to eth0 is 10.10.10.2
So the broadcast address is 10.255.255.255 for both the switch and eth0

So first I ping eth0:

bmike1@3[bmike1]$ sudo ping -c 5 10.10.10.2
PING 10.10.10.2 (10.10.10.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.10.10.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.161 ms
64 bytes from 10.10.10.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.156 ms
64 bytes from 10.10.10.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.130 ms
64 bytes from 10.10.10.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.143 ms
64 bytes from 10.10.10.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.152 ms

--- 10.10.10.2 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4004ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.130/0.148/0.161/0.015 ms

That looked good. So then I ping the switch:

bmike1@3[bmike1]$ sudo ping -c 5 10.10.10.5
PING 10.10.10.5 (10.10.10.5) 56(84) bytes of data.
ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
<cntrl-c>

No good. So let's try the broadcast address to make sure the switch didn't lie
to me when using cu and minicom.

bmike1@3[bmike1]$ sudo ping -c 5 -b 10.255.255.255
WARNING: pinging broadcast address
PING 10.255.255.255 (10.255.255.255) 56(84) bytes of data.
ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted

--- 10.255.255.255 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4011ms

That didn't work either. So after reviewing man ping I see the option that
let's you specify the name of the device:

bmike1@3[bmike1]$ sudo ping -c 5 -I eth0 <and /dev/eth0>
Usage: pin......

neither worked! I don't even want to guess at what the switch rj45 ports are
called (haven't a clue).So then I thing that maybe I can ping it through the
serial port (which is /dev/ttys2- why? I don't know! I only have two ports).

bmike1@3[bmike1]$ sudo ping -c 5 -I /dev/ttyS2
Usage: pin.....

Again, it does not work.

So here are the questions:
 1- is it possible to ping the switch?
 2- what's wrong with the broadcast ping? I meanthe broadcast address 
      for both eth0 and the switch are 10.255.255.255 so even if I can't ping
      the switch I should get a reply from eth0.


This might be part of the problem for 2 here:
I looked for eth0 to make sure I was using the right directory. First I ran
updatedb and then.....

bmike1@3[bmike1]$ ls /dev |grep eth*
fb0autodetect
fb1autodetect
fb2autodetect
fb3autodetect
fb4autodetect
fb5autodetect
fb6autodetect
fb7autodetect
bmike1@3[bmike1]$

uh-ohhhhhh. There aren't any eth's there.

bmike1@3[bmike1]$ locate eth0
/usr/share/apps/knetload/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/deveth0.png
/usr/share/apps/knetload/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/deveth0on.png
bmike1@3[bmike1]$

Uh-ohhhhhh. There aren't any eth0s on my system! Nor eth1-9
I have a feeling this is very bad? Am I right? What should I do if it is?
Wait:

bmike1@3[bmike1]$ ifconfig | grep eth
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:C7:CA:62:4B


Right. eth0 is the name of a device. But ppp is in /dev (but not ppp0)
I am confusing myself.

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