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Author: Rudolfo Munguia
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To: plug-discuss
Subject: Re: hi speed internet options FTTP
If you check around you will find that VDSL is available only within
about 2 kilometers of a didgital POP. So although it has a presence
it, it services less than 30% of the city. and those POPs are usually
with few kilometers of a SONET ring.

As far as fiber being layed everywhere in atlanta, I would require a
lot more info such as:

- Were all the primary runs within 2km of each other?
- Were powered pedestals and/or Colocated Pop's created?
- Were they also deploying the Infrastructure? (MUX'es/Routers/etc.)

A LOT of carriers went as far as to deploy fiber to urban areas to
support the high-speed internet part of the dot-com boom because
assumed they could afford to build the cabling plant and subsidize the
infrastructure later.

But a major part of those designs left the primary runs as far as 12
kilometers apart based on the assumption that things would go the way
of DSL which could be
pushed as far as 6 kilometers on good copper. And as such, most of
their Infrastructure is still aimed at DSL because they are still
trying to pay it off.

To get FTTP to work most of the primaries need to much closer together
because most commodity equipment that supports 10/100 Ethernet will
only reach about 2km (assuming multimode fiber which costs less than
the singlemode used for primaries)

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 04:27:59 -0700, Don Calfa <> wrote:
> Rudolfo Munguia wrote:
>
>
> > I haven't heard of any plans for FTTP in the valley due to the extreme cost.
> >
> > You see, due to the density of the population on the east coast they
> > have a much easier time justifying the capital expenditure of FTTP.
> > Much like parts of Japan where they are connection entire city blocks
> > via GigE/FastE; there are thousands of people per city block, making
> > the revenue per installed fiber much higher.
> >
> > With Phoenix being pretty much the king of the "Urban Sprawl"
> > phenomena, we are lucky to have as much High-speed coverage as we do.
> > And that coverage is actually pretty poor, in many places you don't
> > have a choice of Qwest vs. Cox vs. Sprint, because they simply don't
> > have the equipment in the area to support it.
> >
> > As far as your apartment, talk to your Lease office. Many companies
> > are connecting entire apartment complexes via Dedicated T1 and 10Mb
> > drops or WAP's. If they don't have that available, then ask if you
> > could talk to their Telecomm Technician. They will often times have
> > the inside scoop on whether or not the local Carrier has ISDN/FracT1
> > services available and can help you get it approved by the mgmt and
> > ordered with the Carrier.
> >
> > The flip side of this is that you could create a business plan and
> > present it to the mgmt and run your own pseudo-ISP via FracT1+WAP
> > which could pay for itself.
> >
> > I have worked in Telcom here in the valley for over 15 years, if you
> > need any serious advice, just ping me.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:45:52 -0700, Miles Beck <> wrote:
> >
> >>Quoting Don Calfa <>:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Anybody have any idea if/when FTTP will be available in the valley?
> >>
> >>Nope, but if it the network build out issues are not resolved soon I can wait.
> >>This article details problems Verizon is having upgrading their network.
> >>
> >>http://news.tbo.com/news/MGBEK96VF1E.html
> >>
> >>-------------------------------------------------
>
> I'm from Atlanta and our sprawl here doesn't even come close to theirs.
> How is it that VDSL is available here and not there?
>
> Also, 4 years ago in Atlanta, MCI was laying fiber everywhere. Could
> that have been the precursor for FTTP?
>
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