Re: Problem accessing camera files in Linux (still)

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Author: Mark Jarvis
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To: plug-discuss
CC: Robert J. Thompson
Old-Topics: Re: Problem accessing camera files in Linux
Subject: Re: Problem accessing camera files in Linux (still)

The Sony camera manual has some truly astounding weasel-wording. It
starts with "The above Os must be installed at the factory", goes on to
say that it may not work on upgraded OSes, in multi-boot environments,
with two or more USB devices connected, or when using a hub. It then
finishes with the incredible "Operations are not guaranteed for all the
recommended environments listed above."

I have a non-factory installation, user upgraded, multi-boot, multiple
USB devices and am using a hub. XP reads it just fine.

I eliminated the multiple USB devices and the hub. Linux still doesn't
see the camera as a valid block device.

I've had a previous experience where a camera said a card was
unreadable, but a memory card reader/PC combo read it fine. I suspect
the camera's programming isn't up to snuff. I'm going to watch the ads
for a "deal" on an appropriate reader--I suspect that will work.

If anyone has suggestions, I'll be happy to give them a try.

-mj-



Mark Jarvis wrote:
>
> The camera is a Sony DSC-W1 with a 256MB Memory Stick. The USB port has
> three settings: Pictbridge, PTF, and Normal. The default setting is
> normal and, in fact, when connected to the computer, the camera's LCD
> viewfinder shows "USB mode normal".
>
> The computer has an add-on USB 2 card connected to a 4-port USB 2 hub. A
> 128MB flash, a SD card reader w/ a 256MBs SD card, and the camera are
> plugged into the hub.
>
> I just read ALL the sections in camera's manual about the USB port
> (RTFM) and now have some things to check, which I'll do tonight--right
> now friend wife has a LIST.
>
> More later.
>
> -mj-
>
> Alan Dayley wrote:
>
>> On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:04 am, Mark Jarvis wrote:
>>
>>> I have a digital camera with a USB connection. In XP, I access the
>>> picture files in it exactly the same as I do files on my USB flash
>>> drives. In Linux I can access the USB drives just fine, but when I try
>>> to mount the camera, I get "device sdd1 is not a valid block device".
>>>
>>> In WBEL (White Box Enterprise Linux) the applicable fstab entries are:
>>>
>>> /dev/sdb1   /mnt/usbhd         auto    noauto,rw,umask=0,users   0 0
>>> /dev/sdc1   /mnt/usb_sd        auto    noauto,rw,umask=0,users   0 0
>>> /dev/sdd1   /mnt/usb_camera    auto    noauto,rw,umask=0,users   0 0

>>>
>>> They start with sdb1 because sda1 is a SCSI disk.
>>>
>>> I also booted into Mepis & Knoppix with similar results--both saw the
>>> two flash drives but not the camera. A student at school had a similar
>>> problem with his Memorex flash drive. No linux system would recognize
>>> it--he always gets the same "not a valid block device" message, even
>>> from systems that recognize other flash drives.
>>>
>>> Someone suggested re-formatting--whether from some knowledge or from
>>> "what the h___, let's try SOMETHING", I don't know.
>>>
>>> Does anybody have any ideas a) why Linux doesn't see some USB devices
>>> properly and b) what the heck to do about it? Is there some reason to
>>> expect re-formatting to help?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> You need to tell more about your camera. Some digital cameras cannot
>> be mounted as a USB drive. The windows drivers hide this fact but in
>> Linux, it "knows." For example, we have a Canon A80. Most Canon
>> cameras use a connection method called Picture Transport Protocol
>> (PTP). The camera does not present itself as a storage device but it
>> works fine under Linux with gphoto.
>>
>> gphoto is a camera connection program that other GUI applications use
>> to manage digital cameras. gtkam is the first application I used to
>> organize photos. It uses gphoto under the GUI to talk to the camera.
>>
>> In gtkam, out Canon camera works fine configured as "USB PTP Class
>> Camera" I'd suggest you try to use an application that uses gphoto.
>> gtkam may be the first, best choice. On the Fedora Core menus it is
>> under the "Graphics" menu as "Digital Camera Tool"
>>
>> If that doesn't work, tell us more about your setup so we can help you
>> research and solve.
>>
>> Alan
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