Re: Installfest 10/30

Hi Todd,

I suspect it's at the same location as the last one based on emails that
I've seen. There is a listing for one in Sept, so I think that's still
valid. From the PLUG page:

If you are planning to do a full installation, please arrive by 1:00pm
so that there is enough time to complete the job.

What: PLUG Linux InstallFest
When: Saturday, September 25, 2004 from 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM
Where: University of Advancing Technology, 2625 West Baseline Road in
Tempe, Arizona. Located on the south side of Baseline road just east of
48th Street.

HTH,
Tom

todd hewett wrote:

>Where do the installfests take place?
>
>The installfests do not seem to be documented at:
>http://plug.phoenix.az.us/index.php
>
>Either the location or the time.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Todd
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Siri Amrit
>Kaur
>Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:04 AM
>To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: Installfest 10/30
>
>On Friday 29 October 2004 11:11 am, Alexander Henry kindly wrote:
>
>
>
>>At first I thought we'd say, yes, you can come in for install help, but
>>the helpee is the one with their hands on the mouse.... Hans disagreed,
>>saying the purpose of the installfest was in fact to give the public
>>installs without their involvement for free, so they can take a working
>>Linux box home with them and play. After some more bantering, all of us
>>agreed to exactly this vision. Volunteers in fact give free installs to
>>people.
>>
>>
>
>For some people (visual and audial learners) it's fine to let them watch
>while
>we do it all for them so they can take their box home and play with their
>new
>Linux. For other people (kinesthetic learners), it's better to let them keep
>
>their hand on the mouse and guide them from over their shoulder. Kinesthetic
>
>learners are in the minority but we can't retain anything from watching
>someone else do it. We have to do it ourselves to get the "muscle memory" of
>
>the task.
>
>So the question becomes, are we simply installing Linux for people, or are
>we
>trying to teach people how to use Linux while installing it so they won't be
>
>hopelessly lost once they get it home?
>
>
>
>>They must have a working Linux system of some kind by the time
>>they leave (which right now isn't happening often enough). To reduce the
>>burden on the volunteers, we need to limit the scope of the work we're
>>willing to do. We also have to prepare people with information on what to
>>expect coming to the installfest.
>>
>>Here's how I believe everyone thinks that people coming to the
>>installfests should know: Before coming to the installfest, you need a
>>working computer, complete with PSU, CPU, memory, hard drive (or key fob
>>for DSL), CD ROM drive, network card, your own extra hard drive if you
>>want backups. We will install only: The latest Fedora Core, the latest
>>Mandrake, Debian testing, Mepis, DSL, Free BSD, or Slackware. We will
>>either install on a virgin hard drive, or a dual boot of your Windows or
>>osX. Then we need the times for installing their choices of stuff, so
>>they know how early they need to come in. For instance, 1 hour for a
>>backup to another disk, 2 hours for a partition resize, 30 minutes for
>>FC2, 3 hours for Debian, etc. We should also have selections for the
>>general packages they want installed, like OOO, Samba with printing,
>>Apache, PHP, MySQL, C++, GTK dev, Java, etc.
>>
>>
>
>I like these ideas. I'd like to also suggest we make up a little one-page
>handout for our "customers" to take home with them that would have a few
>good
>help links like linuxquestions.org and the PLUG list, and some important
>tips
>for when they get home. Simple, desktop-use things like never use root as a
>regular user, where to find the KDE control panel (for those who will be
>using KDE), how to find and configure the firewall, where to find /etc/fstab
>
>and /etc/group, etc...
>
>I always find myself writing these things down for people and they seem to
>find it helpful. I'll just type up some stuff now and make some copies to
>bring today. If you like this idea, please give me your suggestions of what
>to include.
>
>Siri Amrit
>
>
>
>>That's the gist of it. The same information will be formatted in a
>>complete and friendly manner. The information page would be the quickest
>>to get online. There was also talk of an appointment form, which I think
>>is a great idea. Same stuff stated above, but with check boxes,
>>submission which e-mails us and gives them specific instructions on when
>>to arrive.
>>
>>The purpose of this is to make is scalable, so the same system can cover
>>both small Installfests and large Install Conferences like at ASU. It
>>would also be nice to get Installfests broadcast to big company internal
>>networks, so just like Toastmaster's, everyone at Intel, Motorola,
>>Honeywell will always know when installfests are held. You can't
>>broadcast stuff like this without a reliable system, and I'm hoping to
>>turn this into such a system.
>>
>>
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