Hi Todd, I suspect it's at the same location as the last one based on emails that I've seen. There is a listing for one in Sept, so I think that's still valid. From the PLUG page: If you are planning to do a full installation, please arrive by 1:00pm so that there is enough time to complete the job. What: PLUG Linux InstallFest When: Saturday, September 25, 2004 from 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM Where: University of Advancing Technology, 2625 West Baseline Road in Tempe, Arizona. Located on the south side of Baseline road just east of 48th Street. HTH, Tom todd hewett wrote: >Where do the installfests take place? > >The installfests do not seem to be documented at: >http://plug.phoenix.az.us/index.php > >Either the location or the time. > >Thanks, > >Todd > >-----Original Message----- >From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Siri Amrit >Kaur >Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:04 AM >To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Re: Installfest 10/30 > >On Friday 29 October 2004 11:11 am, Alexander Henry kindly wrote: > > > >>At first I thought we'd say, yes, you can come in for install help, but >>the helpee is the one with their hands on the mouse.... Hans disagreed, >>saying the purpose of the installfest was in fact to give the public >>installs without their involvement for free, so they can take a working >>Linux box home with them and play. After some more bantering, all of us >>agreed to exactly this vision. Volunteers in fact give free installs to >>people. >> >> > >For some people (visual and audial learners) it's fine to let them watch >while >we do it all for them so they can take their box home and play with their >new >Linux. For other people (kinesthetic learners), it's better to let them keep > >their hand on the mouse and guide them from over their shoulder. Kinesthetic > >learners are in the minority but we can't retain anything from watching >someone else do it. We have to do it ourselves to get the "muscle memory" of > >the task. > >So the question becomes, are we simply installing Linux for people, or are >we >trying to teach people how to use Linux while installing it so they won't be > >hopelessly lost once they get it home? > > > >>They must have a working Linux system of some kind by the time >>they leave (which right now isn't happening often enough). To reduce the >>burden on the volunteers, we need to limit the scope of the work we're >>willing to do. We also have to prepare people with information on what to >>expect coming to the installfest. >> >>Here's how I believe everyone thinks that people coming to the >>installfests should know: Before coming to the installfest, you need a >>working computer, complete with PSU, CPU, memory, hard drive (or key fob >>for DSL), CD ROM drive, network card, your own extra hard drive if you >>want backups. We will install only: The latest Fedora Core, the latest >>Mandrake, Debian testing, Mepis, DSL, Free BSD, or Slackware. We will >>either install on a virgin hard drive, or a dual boot of your Windows or >>osX. Then we need the times for installing their choices of stuff, so >>they know how early they need to come in. For instance, 1 hour for a >>backup to another disk, 2 hours for a partition resize, 30 minutes for >>FC2, 3 hours for Debian, etc. We should also have selections for the >>general packages they want installed, like OOO, Samba with printing, >>Apache, PHP, MySQL, C++, GTK dev, Java, etc. >> >> > >I like these ideas. I'd like to also suggest we make up a little one-page >handout for our "customers" to take home with them that would have a few >good >help links like linuxquestions.org and the PLUG list, and some important >tips >for when they get home. Simple, desktop-use things like never use root as a >regular user, where to find the KDE control panel (for those who will be >using KDE), how to find and configure the firewall, where to find /etc/fstab > >and /etc/group, etc... > >I always find myself writing these things down for people and they seem to >find it helpful. I'll just type up some stuff now and make some copies to >bring today. If you like this idea, please give me your suggestions of what >to include. > >Siri Amrit > > > >>That's the gist of it. The same information will be formatted in a >>complete and friendly manner. The information page would be the quickest >>to get online. There was also talk of an appointment form, which I think >>is a great idea. Same stuff stated above, but with check boxes, >>submission which e-mails us and gives them specific instructions on when >>to arrive. >> >>The purpose of this is to make is scalable, so the same system can cover >>both small Installfests and large Install Conferences like at ASU. It >>would also be nice to get Installfests broadcast to big company internal >>networks, so just like Toastmaster's, everyone at Intel, Motorola, >>Honeywell will always know when installfests are held. You can't >>broadcast stuff like this without a reliable system, and I'm hoping to >>turn this into such a system. >> >> >--------------------------------------------------- >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >--------------------------------------------------- >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss