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On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 06:56 AM, =20
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>    1. Re: Need recommendation on floppy substitute (George Toft)
>    2. Bandersnatch stolen (der.hans)
>    3. Re: Bandersnatch stolen (Alan Dayley)
>    4. RE: Frenchie success (Ted Gould)
>    5. Re: Frenchie success (Alan Dayley)
>    6. Re: Bandersnatch stolen (der.hans)
>    7. Re: Bandersnatch stolen (Rob Wultsch)
>    8. Re: Project (Ted Gould)
>    9. Re: Bandersnatch stolen (der.hans)
>   10. RE: Bandersnatch stolen (David Huerta)
>   11. RE: Bandersnatch stolen (der.hans)
>   12. Re: Bandersnatch stolen (Bowie J. Poag)
>   13. Re: East Side Meeting (Austin Godber)
>   14. Re: Bandersnatch stolen (Craig White)
>   15. Re: Bandersnatch stolen (Vaughn Treude)

>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:22:11 -0700
> From: George Toft <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Need recommendation on floppy substitute
> Reply-To:
>
> Bryce C wrote:
>>
>> Is it really that uncommon a feature to find these days? I'd say that
>> all motherboards that support from Duron 800s and up support it. In
>> fact, I think even my FW supports booting from a USB device and it's =20=

>> an
>> Athlon 550. True though, it does depend on how recent the hardware =
you
>> use is but if it is being bought "today", you'll be able to do this.
>> In fact, I don't know why I didn't think of this in the first place,
>> seeing as I use a gentoo one myself for various odd tasks.
>> Good luck
>>
>> On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 02:38, der.hans wrote:
>>> Am 12. Sep, 2003 schw=E4tzte George Toft so:
>>>
>>>> I'm looking to create a NMP (No Moving Parts) firewall based on =20
>>>> LEAF.
>>>> To accomplish this, I need something to replace the floppy drive, =20=

>>>> or an
>>>> alternate boot device. This something needs to be =20
>>>> mountable/unmountable
>>>> like a floppy.
>>>>
>>>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> As Bryce and Chris suggested you can go with a USB device. I think =20=

>>> booting
>>> from USB is still a hard to find feature, though.
>>>
>>> There are IDE->CF adapters out there. A couple of links were posted =20=

>>> on the
>>> list sometime in the last year.
>>>
>>> You'd have to make a mechanism to 'eject' the card, but that should =20=

>>> work
>>> fine if you can run from RAM and unmount the device.
>>>
>>> There might also be a way to physically remove the 'write' pin.
>>>
>>> If you have a SCSI->CF ( hallo Alan :) you might be able to =20
>>> physically make
>>> the device read-only.
>>>
>>> You could add a second CF card that is writable for logs.
>>>
>>> I'm certain you thought of network booting, but it doesn't work for =20=

>>> what you
>>> want. Might work for the rest of us, though :).
>>>
>>> Hmmm, LTSP firewall farm... ;-)
>>>
>>> Hmmm, using a 200MHz processor as an LTSP server and have it be =20
>>> useful :).
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
>> --
>> Bryce C <>
>> CoBryce Communications
>>
>> =20
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>
>
> Thank you all for the comments. I like the Compact Flash idea, but =
may
> play with bootable USB. Way cool ideas!
>
> --=20
> George Toft
> Computer Security
> AGD,llc
> www.agdllc.com
> 623-203-1760
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:03:17 -0700 (MST)
> From: "der.hans" <>
> To: quatsch <>
> Subject: Bandersnatch stolen
> Reply-To:
>
> moin, moin,
>
> sadly the owner is being forced to sell.
>
> We need another location for the GNU/Linux Stammtisch if we wish to =20=

> continue
> having the meetings.
>
> It needs to have a no cost Internet connection ( preferably both =20
> wireless
> and wired ) and needs to be open for all ages. Having beer and not so
> expensive snacks would be good. If they normally charge for the Net
> connection, but let us in for no cost, that would probably be =20
> acceptable.
>
> Not in downtown Tempe. I will not be supporting MAMA. They've driven =20=

> off all
> the good businesses.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
> --=20
> #  https://www.LuftHans.com/    http://www.AZOTO.org/
> #  "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by =20
> understanding."
> #    -- Albert Einstein

>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:14:59 -0700
> From: Alan Dayley <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Bandersnatch stolen
> Reply-To:
>
> der.hans wrote:
>
>> moin, moin,
>>
>> sadly the owner is being forced to sell.
>>
> Nerts!
>
>> We need another location for the GNU/Linux Stammtisch if we wish to =20=

>> continue
>> having the meetings.
>>
>> It needs to have a no cost Internet connection ( preferably both =20
>> wireless
>> and wired ) and needs to be open for all ages. Having beer and not so
>> expensive snacks would be good. If they normally charge for the Net
>> connection, but let us in for no cost, that would probably be =20
>> acceptable.
>>
> Elite PC? I will think about other places.
>
>> Not in downtown Tempe. I will not be supporting MAMA. They've driven =20=

>> off all
>> the good businesses.
>>
> MAMA? What is that?
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: 17 Sep 2003 00:18:47 -0700
> From: "Ted Gould" <>
> To:
> Subject: RE: Frenchie success
> Reply-To:
>
>
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> On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 10:00, der.hans wrote:
>> Well, congrats, though. Also, when you speak *to* Ford, remind them =20=

>> that =3D
> we
>> want GNU/Linux-based cars/trucks/vans, using standard connections and
>> protocols, so we can monitor how they're doing :).
>
> Actually, I think that's already done for most cars. I can't seem to
> find the website, but I know I saw a site where a guy was writing free
> software for engine diagnosis. The trick is that you need a protocol
> converter box to anything that is useful for the PC. I want to say it
> used that automotive bus... CAN? I don't remember.
>
>         --Ted

>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:24:30 -0700
> From: Alan Dayley <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Frenchie success
> Reply-To:
>
> Ted Gould wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 10:00, der.hans wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Well, congrats, though. Also, when you speak *to* Ford, remind them =20=

>>> that we
>>> want GNU/Linux-based cars/trucks/vans, using standard connections =
and
>>> protocols, so we can monitor how they're doing :).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Actually, I think that's already done for most cars. I can't seem to
>> find the website, but I know I saw a site where a guy was writing =
free
>> software for engine diagnosis. The trick is that you need a protocol
>> converter box to anything that is useful for the PC. I want to say =
it
>> used that automotive bus... CAN? I don't remember.
>>
>>         --Ted

>>
> CAN Bus is correct.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:21:11 -0700 (MST)
> From: "der.hans" <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Bandersnatch stolen
> Reply-To:
>
> Am 17. Sep, 2003 schw=3DE4tzte Alan Dayley so:
>
>>> Not in downtown Tempe. I will not be supporting MAMA. They've driven =
=20
>>> off=3D
> all
>>> the good businesses.
>>>
>> MAMA? What is that?
>
> Mill Avenue Fascists ( Merchants ) Association
>
> They're the ones who decided sitting on the sidewalk is a crime, who =20=

> banned
> Traveler from playing because people like the group, who've run all =
the
> cultural centers out of downtown Tempe, who've replaced those cultural
> centers with chains and meat markets...
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
> --=3D20
> #  https://www.LuftHans.com/    http://www.AZOTO.org/
> #  HERE LIES LESTER MOORE
> #  SHOT 4 TIMES WITH A .44
> #  NO LES
> #  NO MOORE
> #        -- tombstone, in Tombstone, AZ

>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:30:36 -0700
> From: Rob Wultsch <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Bandersnatch stolen
> Reply-To:
>
> der.hans wrote:
>> moin, moin,
>>
>> sadly the owner is being forced to sell.
>>
>> We need another location for the GNU/Linux Stammtisch if we wish to =20=

>> continue
>> having the meetings.
>>
>> It needs to have a no cost Internet connection ( preferably both =20
>> wireless
>> and wired ) and needs to be open for all ages. Having beer and not so
>> expensive snacks would be good. If they normally charge for the Net
>> connection, but let us in for no cost, that would probably be =20
>> acceptable.
>>
>> Not in downtown Tempe. I will not be supporting MAMA. They've driven =20=

>> off all
>> the good businesses.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
> How bout the asu cafeteria/food place?
>
> --=20
>                                    .-.
> =3D------------------------------   /v\  ----------------------------=3D=
 

> Robert Wultsch                   // \\        
> Linux User                      /(   )\              AIM:sheepsleep7
> Don't fear the penguins          ^^-^^                  (602)6927564

>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: 17 Sep 2003 00:34:23 -0700
> From: "Ted Gould" <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Project
> Reply-To:
>
>
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>
> On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 10:44, devin rankin wrote:
>> What I need some help with on is the software that will run the =20
>> picture
>> slide show. My pictures are in several different resolutions and I
>> would like to have something that will auto size them so that they =
all
>> fit on a full screen. I have tried GQview and a few others, but so =20=

>> far,
>> I have not found anything that will do a full screen slide show and =20=

>> will
>> auto size the images. Does anyone know program that will do what I
>> want?
>
> gThumb will do that also. http://gthumb.sf.net/
>
>     --Ted

>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:30:35 -0700 (MST)
> From: "der.hans" <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Bandersnatch stolen
> Reply-To:
>
> Am 17. Sep, 2003 schw=3DE4tzte Rob Wultsch so:
>
>> How bout the asu cafeteria/food place?
>
> ASU is generally somewhat unfriendly to people not 'affiliated' with =20=

> ASU.
> Also parking (services) for ASU sucks.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
> --=3D20
> #  https://www.LuftHans.com/    http://www.AZOTO.org/
> #  Practice socially consious hedonism. Do whatever you want,
> #  as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. - der.hans

>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: "David Huerta" <>
> To: <>
> Subject: RE: Bandersnatch stolen
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 01:01:22 -0700
> Reply-To:
>
> DeVry will be opening a Cybercafe on campus sometime within the next =20=

> two
> months. It will have free Ethernet hookups, Starbucks coffee (no beer
> or real food, but possibly Bawls and Jolt), as well as some gaming
> stations which are not free. The space is somewhat limited though
> (there's like 4 tiny tables with 4 chairs or stools), but there's also
> some chairs and tables right outside the door in the courtyard. I =
know
> the people in charge, so I might be able to help arrange something.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
> der.hans
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:03 AM
> To: quatsch
> Subject: Bandersnatch stolen
>
> moin, moin,
>
> sadly the owner is being forced to sell.
>
> We need another location for the GNU/Linux Stammtisch if we wish to
> continue
> having the meetings.
>
> It needs to have a no cost Internet connection ( preferably both
> wireless
> and wired ) and needs to be open for all ages. Having beer and not so
> expensive snacks would be good. If they normally charge for the Net
> connection, but let us in for no cost, that would probably be
> acceptable.
>
> Not in downtown Tempe. I will not be supporting MAMA. They've driven =20=

> off
> all
> the good businesses.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
> --=20
> #  https://www.LuftHans.com/    http://www.AZOTO.org/
> #  "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by
> understanding."
> #    -- Albert Einstein

>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 01:03:29 -0700 (MST)
> From: "der.hans" <>
> To:
> Subject: RE: Bandersnatch stolen
> Reply-To:
>
> Am 17. Sep, 2003 schw=3DE4tzte David Huerta so:
>
>> DeVry will be opening a Cybercafe on campus sometime within the next =20=

>> two
>> months. It will have free Ethernet hookups, Starbucks coffee (no =
beer
>> or real food, but possibly Bawls and Jolt), as well as some gaming
>> stations which are not free. The space is somewhat limited though
>> (there's like 4 tiny tables with 4 chairs or stools), but there's =
also
>> some chairs and tables right outside the door in the courtyard. I =20=

>> know
>> the people in charge, so I might be able to help arrange something.
>
> This is the campus in Glendale? They open Tuesday nights? Want to =20
> start a
> DeVry instance of the GNU/Linux Stammtisch?
>
> BTW, is there a LUG going at DeVry? We want to help with meetings, =20
> topics,
> etc. We also want to get them involved in the InstallFest and make =20
> sure the=3D
> y
> know about the HackFest ASULUG is planning.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
> --=3D20
> #  https://www.LuftHans.com/    http://www.AZOTO.org/
> #  Like the maid, I don't do (M$)Windows. - der.hans

>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> From: "Bowie J. Poag" <>
> To: <>
> Subject: Re: Bandersnatch stolen
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 01:37:48 -0700
> Reply-To:
>
>
> Are you kidding?
>
> Hell, if thats what MAMA stands for, I'd *want* to hold the meetings =
in
> downtown Tempe. It's clean, and safe.
>
> If I wanted to see a bunch of panhandlers urinating on the sidewalk, =20=

> i'd go
> to Tucson. :)
>
>
>
>
>
>>> MAMA? What is that?
>>
>> Mill Avenue Fascists ( Merchants ) Association
>>
>> They're the ones who decided sitting on the sidewalk is a crime, who =20=

>> banned
>> Traveler from playing because people like the group, who've run all =20=

>> the
>> cultural centers out of downtown Tempe, who've replaced those =
cultural
>> centers with chains and meat markets...
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 01:44:56 -0700
> From: Austin Godber <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: East Side Meeting
> Reply-To:
>
> Austin Godber wrote:
>> Old Presentation and additional information available at my site:
>>
>> http://uberhip.com/godber/plug
>>
>> Austin
>
> My September 11th Presentation is now up. Same address.
>
> Austin
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Subject: Re: Bandersnatch stolen
> From: Craig White <>
> To:
> Date: 17 Sep 2003 04:59:28 -0700
> Reply-To:
>
> On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 00:21, der.hans wrote:
>> Am 17. Sep, 2003 schw=C3=A4tzte Alan Dayley so:
>>
>>>> Not in downtown Tempe. I will not be supporting MAMA. They've =20
>>>> driven off all
>>>> the good businesses.
>>>>
>>> MAMA? What is that?
>>
>> Mill Avenue Fascists ( Merchants ) Association
>>
>> They're the ones who decided sitting on the sidewalk is a crime, who =20=

>> banned
>> Traveler from playing because people like the group, who've run all =20=

>> the
>> cultural centers out of downtown Tempe, who've replaced those =
cultural
>> centers with chains and meat markets...
> ------
> I got the impression from the Az Republic that MAMA is virtually out =
of
> business too. Apparently they owe quite a bit of money to the city of
> Tempe and the city will put on the Fall/Winter Festival of the Arts
> without them.
>
> As for MAMA deciding what's appropriate in downtown Tempe - I think =20=

> that
> has been coming for years - it's certainly no longer a place where a
> student can afford to be - high priced stores and restaurants. No =20
> longer
> any interesting shops, etc.
>
> Craig
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> From: Vaughn Treude <>
> Organization: Nakota Software, Inc.
> To:
> Subject: Re: Bandersnatch stolen
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 06:58:10 -0400
> Reply-To:
>
> Mega-dittos on that, Hans. My favorite spot in downtown Tempe was the
> Changing Hands Bookstore, and they drove that away. I guess that the =
=20
> only
> way to have a "world class" downtown (and lots of yummy tax revenues) =20=

> is to
> drive out the local mom-and-pop businesses and replace them with =20
> Starbucks.
>
> Vaughn
>
> On Wednesday 17 September 2003 03:21, you wrote:
>> Am 17. Sep, 2003 schw=E4tzte Alan Dayley so:
>>>> Not in downtown Tempe. I will not be supporting MAMA. They've =20
>>>> driven off
>>>> all the good businesses.
>>>
>>> MAMA? What is that?
>>
>> Mill Avenue Fascists ( Merchants ) Association
>>
>> They're the ones who decided sitting on the sidewalk is a crime, who =20=

>> banned
>> Traveler from playing because people like the group, who've run all =20=

>> the
>> cultural centers out of downtown Tempe, who've replaced those =
cultural
>> centers with chains and meat markets...
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
>
>
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