Author: Austin Godber Date: Subject: Red Hat rumors and OS Support (fwd)
Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > Does Debian really support old Debian releases? For example, Potato was
> supported for a long time. But as of June 30, it is now unsupported.
>
> Debian also has had problems with upgrading from old versions to new
> versions. It is getting a lot better now. (I should rephrase that:
> Debian offers the most reliable and easiest package upgrade mechanism I
> have used.) But over the past 6+ years of using Debian, I have spent a lot
> of time manually updating versions of apt-get, dpkg (including having to
> revert to older versions), et cetera, so the upgrades would work
> correctly.
>
> (Another example is OpenBSD: it has a consistent release every six months
> and then the two releases previous -- one year old -- version becomes
> dead.)
>
> Having an end of life of old versions is definitely a good idea.
> Developers (volunteers) should spend their time on new or recent code, in
> my opinion.
>
> Also, if the end-of-life'd Red Hat is really good, of course, someone
> could spend their time keeping it alive and up-to-date (and fork a new
> project/distro out of it). But it doesn't really seem worth it.
I am not saying I blame RedHat or anything. Surely products have to have an
EOL, but when RH9 came out its EOL was only tenish months away. That week I was
installing a web server and replacing a Win2k domain controller with a linux
box. I had used redhat for about 5 or 6 years by then but when I realized that
the latest RedHat would end not even a year from when I was installing. I
decided I didn't want to be forced to reinstall in less than a year.
As for upgrading, its always something I had avoided, I used a redhat upgrade
years ago and then decided that I would not attempt upgrades again. So
reinstall the newer version was really the only option. I have been using
dist-upgrade lately with much success (testing -> unstable), granted these boxes
are just desktops.
Backporting security patches is not a valuable use of my time at the moment.
Paying for security patches (well convenient ones at least) is not something I
am fond of doing. So I will be avoiding it somewhat. But, since RH is the
(well perhaps just one of the dominant) dominant commercial distribution I need
to keep up to date on it. I haven't figured out how though.
Actually this give me an idea for a presentation. Building RPMs and DEBs. I
would like to see a presentation on that. Or figure it out and give one.