I think much of it misses the real point of what we are trying to do
here. The point is that PLUG is a local resource for people and
businesses that want to incorporate open source / free software into
their endeavors. Material that explains what the open source / free
software is good.
Free software is capable of making the sale on its own merits and
whatever campaign that BSA is currently running is of no interest here.
There's no particular interest in tying into the
Microsoft/Adobe/Apple/etc. collection arm. People either realize the
problem here or they don't.
PLUG harnesses the spirit of open source / free software, and connects
you to people that can help you make it work for you.
Craig
On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 20:39, Alan Dayley wrote:
> This is great reference material to give more "bite" to the story, should someone want it.
>
> The letter I have was sent out this last June 7th. Very timely for our needs! ;^)
>
> Alan
>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Derek Neighbors <derek@gnue.org>
> Sent: 07/14/03 05:20 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: Arizona Technology Expo - Another sign, Kyle (note at bottom)
>
> >
> > Michael Havens said:
> > "If your company used Free Software, you would spend zero time and money
> > on ensuring compliance!"
> >
> > ***Who has that letter?***
>
> I used to save these.
>
> http://www.gnue.org/~dneighbo/freedom/front.jpg
> http://www.gnue.org/~dneighbo/freedom/back.jpg
>
> Above is one of thier last campaigns.
>
>
> Here is microsoft's piracy site: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/
>
> Next time you tell a BSA tell of breaking down doors and people don't
> believe you. Point them to this gem (with photos) on Microsoft's site,
> where they brag that they had the Los Angeles Sheriff Dept, Los Angeles
> Police Department, US Secret Service, US Customs and more busting down an
> "Intellectual Property Crime Syndicate".
> http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/go/raids/
>
> (Granted these guys were distributing not just using)
>
> Here are materials from the campaign:
>
> http://global.bsa.org/usa/policyres/admin/Workroom_Poster.pdf
> http://global.bsa.org/usa/policyres/RouletteSAMTips.pdf
>
> Here is the site for the campaign itself (naturally its a "Grace"
> campaign)
> http://global.bsa.org/usa/events/campaigns/
>
> There is great ammunition out there for BSA stuff. :) The BSA is our
> friend. I have long said if the BSA could penalize EVERYONE violating
> copyright for operating system and office software alone, Free Software
> would be dominate within a year. :)
>
>
>
>
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