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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Tom Achtenberg wrote:
> Your first paragraph puts you at odds with the gnu project according to
> their manifesto. If you had a business they would boycott you over just
> that. I offer as an example that fact they are boycotting Amazon because
> they had the audacity to copyright the One Click" ordering. After a suit
> with Barnes & Nobel over it was settled, the boycott continues because "the
> terms of the settlement" were not released. Those people at the gnu project
> have obviously been smoking that wacky tobacco since the 60's non stop.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Cober" <cplusplus@cox.net>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux for small business
>
>
> Tom - I agree with you that not all software should not be free. I believe
> there is nothing wrong with charging money for software in some
> circumstances, and keeping the source closed.
>
> However, I also believe that the open-source , free software model is
> perfect for certain types of software. I also think it can produce a
> superior product. Take a Web Server for example. Apache is an outstanding
> product. It is needed by millions of people and actively developed by
> thousands of developers. Sendmail is another example. But the best example
> is the Linux kernel itself.
>
> For these types of "commodity software", open-source leverages the talents
> of a large number of developers and testers to create a product that would
> be difficult and expensive to reproduce in a closed-environment. An
> Operating System should be developed by society for society. Think of it
> like freeway system. Society builds it for society. Nobody "owns" the
> freeway. Another analogy would be our government process. Nobody "owns"
> the way a democracy runs. The processes and checks and balances are public,
> free, knowledge.
>
> As a software user, you are much better off using open-source than
> closed-source. By using open-source you empower yourself and others the
> ability to maintain, modify, and enhance your software. As a software user
> if there are 2 identical products, 1 open 1 closed, you should opt for the
> open one. But not all products are availible closed-source, nor should they
> be.
>
> Open-source can be good(especially for users). Closed-source can be
> good(especially for developers that need to make money selling their
> software).
>
> ;-)
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Achtenberg" <lists@achtenberg.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux for small business
>
>
> > Sorry, but after reading the first line of the "About Free Software"
> > section, "Free software is a matter of freedom: people should be free to
> use
> > software in all the ways that are socially useful. " I cannot buy into
> this
> > "movement" The clear implication is they feel anything someone writes
> > belongs to everyone, not the person who wrote it. That is the very system
> > that was tried and failed miserably in Easter Europe. I do not and will
> not
> > buy into it in the least. It is the same mentality that drove me away
> from
> > the Libertarian party in the political world. Under that system, there is
> > no incentive to improve or excel.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gontran Zepeda" <gontran@gontran.net>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: Linux for small business
> >
> >
> > * Tom Achtenberg (lists@achtenberg.com) wrote:
> > > RE: Linux for small businessI don't see a whole lot of difference
> between
> > > the "Free Software Movement" and the "Shareware" movement. Just a
> > > different platform.
> >
> > Harumph.
> >
> > See:
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
> >
> > And related documents there at gnu.org
> >
> >
> > Gontran
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