Linux Programmer

don't you need the standard library?

-----Original Message-----
From: Furmanek, Greg [mailto:Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:48 AM
To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
Subject: RE: Linux Programmer


I do not need dependencies for compiled:

#include <stdio.h>

int
main (void) {
    printf ("%s", "Visual basic is bloated");
    return(0);
}

however if I wanted to do the same thing in VB I
need 2MB worth of files to install!!!

The Wolf

-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lvogel@exponent.com]
-> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 10:51 AM
-> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
-> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
->
->
-> Tell me what happens when I install an rpm(program A) for linux. What
-> happens if program A has missing dependencies? Then I have
-> to find and
-> download the library(library A) so that program A can work.
-> I also have to
-> ensure that library A has its dependencies satisfied, or I'll also be
-> installing library B and/or C. It can get pretty recursive,
-> and also doesn't
-> take into account the different versions that different
-> executables rely on.
->
-> You must not have read the part concerning the tarball when
-> I mentioned the
-> ./configure script, and how it CHECKS FOR DEPENDENCIES. If
-> the script fails
-> because of missing dependencies, you have to do the same
-> thing all over
-> again.
->
-> When you compile a VB app, it does have dependencies. It
-> requires a minimum
-> number of DLL's for it to work. Big deal. Once the dll's are
-> installed you
-> can write as many apps as you want without having to send
-> the same dll's
-> over and over again. If you include some new ones, include
-> some new ones.
->
-> And it's the same thing for Linux, only different. Linux
-> puts an entry into
-> the rpm db, MS into the Registry. But as far as
-> applications, dependencies
-> and distribution, it's still roughly the same thing. One
-> notable exception,
-> however, is that people on this list keep throwing FUD into
-> VB because VB is
-> Microsoft, and MS sucks on this list. That may be a
-> compelling argument for
-> their business practices, but it doesn't make any sense for
-> this argument.
->
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Furmanek, Greg [mailto:Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com]
-> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 10:25 AM
-> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
-> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
->
->
-> I do not understand why you comparing way of distributing
-> programs to the coding/programming discussion.
->
-> RPM uses database to keep track of the files you installed.
-> Tarball is the *source* of a program you are going to
-> compile.
-> After you install you are going to end up with the same result
-> with the exception of the entry in the RPM database.
->
-> On the other hand if you write VB 2-liner and you want to
-> distribute that you have to have 2/3 floppies just to fit
-> the supporitng libraries on it.
->
-> The Wolf
->
->
-> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lvogel@exponent.com]
-> -> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 9:31 AM
-> -> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
-> -> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
-> ->
-> ->
-> -> Give ME a break. You get the same issues w/RPM's and
-> -> tarballs. The tarballs
-> -> have far more damaging potential, though, when you're running the
-> -> ./configure script and it dies because of something you
-> may not know
-> -> anything about how to fix, something that happened
-> -> frequently when I was
-> -> running COL 2.2. Don't make this a Windows-only (or VB, for
-> -> that matter)
-> -> because it isn't.
-> ->
-> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> From: The Wolf [mailto:codewolf@earthlink.net]
-> -> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 9:19 PM
-> -> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
-> -> Subject: Re: Linux Programmer
-> ->
-> ->
-> -> William Lindley wrote:
-> -> >
-> -> > "Code bloat" in my mind is when you write a two-line VB
-> -> program and wind
-> -> > up with three megabytes of stuff that has to be installed.
-> -> Gimme a break.
-> -> >
-> -> > \\/
-> -> >
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-> ->
-> -> AMEN to this one!!!!
-> ->
-> -> --
-> -> "The questions is not if we are paranoid,
-> -> the question is if we are paranoid enough."
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