Linux Programmer

I am glad that there are people like you who take
pride in their coding practices.

I keep my code clean too.

The Wolf

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Cantrell [mailto:yomahz@devnull.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:23 PM
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Re: Linux Programmer


I program a lot in Perl and I consider my code to be a work of art.... I
can't stand looking at sloppy code.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Sheldon" <msheldon@desertraven.com>
To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: Linux Programmer


> >Perl and VB allow for people to do some
> sloppy programming.<
>
> I haven't seen a language yet where this cannot be done.
>
> I've seen some very good VB code, and I've seen some truly horrible Java
> code. Yet the "experts" will tell you that Java is better because it
> produces cleaner code. Yes, Java has better structure, and tends to
enforce
> better coding practices. However, if you take a sloppy programmer and
teach
> them to write Java, they will likely still produce sloppy code.
>
> How well the code is written depends entirely upon the person who writes
it.
> The absolute WORST code I've ever seen has been predominantly C.
>
> Michael J. Sheldon
> Internet Applications Developer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of
> Furmanek, Greg
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 17:30
> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
>
>
> I have to disagree with this one.
>
> Python is an elegant language where VB and
> Perl can be really ugly "mutter".
>
> Perl and VB allow for people to do some
> sloppy programming. It can be done nice
> but most of Perl programmers do not keep
> their code clean. It lends itself to be
> a real mess.
>
> The Wolf
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lvogel@exponent.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:23 PM
> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
>
>
> If there is ANY 'VB' to Linux, it's python/wxpython, not perl! :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trent Shipley [mailto:tshipley@symbio-tech.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:16 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of
> > der.hans
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 1:11 PM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: Linux Programmer
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 24 May 2000, Anthony Walsh wrote:
> >
> > > Keith,
> > >

> > >     To be honest with you I am not a programmer.  I am familiar with
> > > the concepts, and the buzz words that IT people throw out, but it
> > > would be impossible for me to tell you what a Linux Programmer does.

> >
> > We presume this is done in c or c++, but it could be java. It would be
> > nice to know that. The two places in town I know of that are working
with
> > it were doing c-based stuff last I knew.
>
> That is always my first thought, an OS <name> programmer is a programmer
who
> is used to developing REAL programs in OS <name>. Thus a Linux programmer
> programs in C for a Linux environment.
>
> HOWEVER, technical journals titled _Linux Programming_ are often about
> script programming in the common Linux environments. In this case a Linux
> programmer is not a power developer of first tier applications in C, but a
> programmer who develops quick-and-dirty scripts to automate workloads and
> customize environments for users in a Linux shop (cf a VB programmer vs.
> VC++ programmer in MS <os name>). This Linux programmer uses BASh,
Sed/AWK,
> PERL (the Linux answer to VB), TCL/TK . . . and *very little* C. [This
> semantic use would also be consistent with the emphasis on networking. . .
> .]
>
>
> Trent
>
>
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