I am glad that there are people like you who take pride in their coding practices. I keep my code clean too. The Wolf -----Original Message----- From: Mike Cantrell [mailto:yomahz@devnull.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:23 PM To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: Linux Programmer I program a lot in Perl and I consider my code to be a work of art.... I can't stand looking at sloppy code. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Sheldon" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 6:06 PM Subject: RE: Linux Programmer > >Perl and VB allow for people to do some > sloppy programming.< > > I haven't seen a language yet where this cannot be done. > > I've seen some very good VB code, and I've seen some truly horrible Java > code. Yet the "experts" will tell you that Java is better because it > produces cleaner code. Yes, Java has better structure, and tends to enforce > better coding practices. However, if you take a sloppy programmer and teach > them to write Java, they will likely still produce sloppy code. > > How well the code is written depends entirely upon the person who writes it. > The absolute WORST code I've ever seen has been predominantly C. > > Michael J. Sheldon > Internet Applications Developer > Phone: 480.699.1084 > http://www.desertraven.com/ > PGP Key Available on Request > > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of > Furmanek, Greg > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 17:30 > To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us' > Subject: RE: Linux Programmer > > > I have to disagree with this one. > > Python is an elegant language where VB and > Perl can be really ugly "mutter". > > Perl and VB allow for people to do some > sloppy programming. It can be done nice > but most of Perl programmers do not keep > their code clean. It lends itself to be > a real mess. > > The Wolf > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lvogel@exponent.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:23 PM > To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us' > Subject: RE: Linux Programmer > > > If there is ANY 'VB' to Linux, it's python/wxpython, not perl! :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trent Shipley [mailto:tshipley@symbio-tech.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:16 PM > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: RE: Linux Programmer > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of > > der.hans > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 1:11 PM > > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Subject: Re: Linux Programmer > > > > > > On Wed, 24 May 2000, Anthony Walsh wrote: > > > > > Keith, > > > > > > To be honest with you I am not a programmer. I am familiar with > > > the concepts, and the buzz words that IT people throw out, but it > > > would be impossible for me to tell you what a Linux Programmer does. > > > > We presume this is done in c or c++, but it could be java. It would be > > nice to know that. The two places in town I know of that are working with > > it were doing c-based stuff last I knew. > > That is always my first thought, an OS programmer is a programmer who > is used to developing REAL programs in OS . Thus a Linux programmer > programs in C for a Linux environment. > > HOWEVER, technical journals titled _Linux Programming_ are often about > script programming in the common Linux environments. In this case a Linux > programmer is not a power developer of first tier applications in C, but a > programmer who develops quick-and-dirty scripts to automate workloads and > customize environments for users in a Linux shop (cf a VB programmer vs. > VC++ programmer in MS ). This Linux programmer uses BASh, Sed/AWK, > PERL (the Linux answer to VB), TCL/TK . . . and *very little* C. [This > semantic use would also be consistent with the emphasis on networking. . . > .] > > > Trent > > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss _______________________________________________ Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss