Wow... Unity, Mir, Ubuntu phone/tablet all going bye bye

[Matthew Crews]

Let me clarify, I meant it is not feasible to target for Linux and Android
simultaneously in the way Microsoft is planning with .NET core. Didn't mean
to imply it is not feasible to develop for x86 and ARM simultaneously with
the same source code.

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 2:22 PM Matthew Crews <mattcrews at mattcrews.com>
wrote:

> >Convergence so far has never been approached well. the closest I saw was
> The Ubuntu Mobile experience, but It relied on
> >USB video and experience too much to ever become what it could have been.
> I think just creating a secure data exchange
> >between desktop and laptop so that your mobile devices becomes a
> "Userspace" mirror would be far more valuable. then
> >build applications that are specific to each physical platform that can
> then interact with that communal data would be a
> >success. so far nobody has really embraced that.
>
> Honestly what I want to see is a universal dock for my phone or tablet
> that I can use regardless of device. Plug my device in via the USB input,
> and the dock acts as both a video output and a USB/Bluetooth hub for
> keyboard and mouse input.
>
> Thats essentially what the DeX Station, the upcoming dock for the Galaxy
> S8, will do. I want that, without having to buy a new phone.
> http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/phones/dex-station---black-ee-mg950tbegus/
>
> > ​Microsoft is actually building their Os and applications stack in such
> a way that Application developers no long
> >have to develop for the hardware platform, simply to .NET core. that will
> then do all the work to move the
> >application between x86 or ARM. they have quite a few ARM devices.
>
> They have been trying to do this for years since the Windows 8 days (or
> earlier). Hopefully it works this time. Too bad its not a feasible approach
> for Linux and Android though.
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 2:05 PM Stephen Partington <cryptworks at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The Ubuntu mobile UI was a nice platform to work with in a tablet or phone
> interface, but the application ecosystem was horrifying to deal with. I am
> sorry a slapped together wrapper for someone's website is not an app. It is
> a bastardized browser experience that is worse than just using a browser.
> And combine that with no core applications aside from the ones developed by
> the OS team. Its death is not surprising, but it did make me sad.
>
> Convergence so far has never been approached well. the closest I saw was
> The Ubuntu Mobile experience, but It relied on USB video and experience too
> much to ever become what it could have been. I think just creating a secure
> data exchange between desktop and laptop so that your mobile devices
> becomes a "Userspace" mirror would be far more valuable. then build
> applications that are specific to each physical platform that can then
> interact with that communal data would be a success. so far nobody has
> really embraced that.
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Matthew Crews <mattcrews at mattcrews.com>
> wrote:
>
> Good riddance to Unity. That was essentially an unnecessary fork of Gnome
> with polarizing opinions (on top of the polarizing opinions of Gnome). I
> think shifting back to Gnome 3 is the right decision in the long run
> (especially since Debian uses Gnome 3). That said there are features of
> Unity I like, but not many.
>
> Where do you see that Mir is going away? Not seeing it in the article.
> That said, I again agree that Mir is unnecessary when we have Wayland.
>
> Ubuntu phone was, in my opinion, as DOA as Firefox OS and Tizen, and
> Windows Phone.
>
> Tablets...i have very strong opinions about tablets that you can poke me
> about later.
>
> Microsoft can't even get convergence right with Windows 10, and they have
> the money to do it, but then again this is Microsoft we are talking about.
> Android/Chrome OS are going to be closest we get (and it appears to largely
> be successful in Samsung's Galaxy S8, app support notwithstanding).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 1:28 PM Brian Cluff <brian at snaptek.com> wrote:
>
>
> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
>
> It's sad to see so much development get scrapped and I really wanted to
> see a sucsessful ubuntu phone, but I can't help but to think that this
> will ultimately be a good thing.
>
> Brian Cluff
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