<div dir="ltr">Let me clarify, I meant it is not feasible to target for Linux and Android simultaneously in the way Microsoft is planning with .NET core. Didn't mean to imply it is not feasible to develop for x86 and ARM simultaneously with the same source code.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 2:22 PM Matthew Crews <<a href="mailto:mattcrews@mattcrews.com">mattcrews@mattcrews.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">>Convergence so far has never been approached well. the closest I saw was The Ubuntu Mobile experience, but It relied on</span><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">>USB video and experience too much to ever become what it could have been. I think just creating a secure data exchange</span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">>between desktop and laptop so that your mobile devices becomes a "Userspace" mirror would be far more valuable. then</span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">>build applications that are specific to each physical platform that can then interact with that communal data would be a</span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">>success. so far nobody has really embraced that.</span> <br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">Honestly what I want to see is a universal dock for my phone or tablet that I can use regardless of device. Plug my device in via the USB input, and the dock acts as both a video output and a USB/Bluetooth hub for keyboard and mouse input.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Thats essentially what the DeX Station, the upcoming dock for the Galaxy S8, will do. I want that, without having to buy a new phone. <a href="http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/phones/dex-station---black-ee-mg950tbegus/" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/phones/dex-station---black-ee-mg950tbegus/</a></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">> Microsoft is actually building their Os and applications stack in such a way that Application developers no long</span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">>have to develop for the hardware platform, simply to .NET core. that will then do all the work to move the</span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">>application between x86 or ARM. they have quite a few ARM devices.</span> <br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">They have been trying to do this for years since the Windows 8 days (or earlier). Hopefully it works this time. Too bad its not a feasible approach for Linux and Android though.</div></div><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 2:05 PM Stephen Partington <<a href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_default gmail_msg" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">The Ubuntu mobile UI was a nice platform to work with in a tablet or phone interface, but the application ecosystem was horrifying to deal with. I am sorry a slapped together wrapper for someone's website is not an app. It is a bastardized browser experience that is worse than just using a browser. And combine that with no core applications aside from the ones developed by the OS team. Its death is not surprising, but it did make me sad.</div><div class="gmail_default gmail_msg" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_default gmail_msg" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Convergence so far has never been approached well. the closest I saw was The Ubuntu Mobile experience, but It relied on USB video and experience too much to ever become what it could have been. I think just creating a secure data exchange between desktop and laptop so that your mobile devices becomes a "Userspace" mirror would be far more valuable. then build applications that are specific to each physical platform that can then interact with that communal data would be a success. so far nobody has really embraced that.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Matthew Crews <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:mattcrews@mattcrews.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">mattcrews@mattcrews.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Good riddance to Unity. That was essentially an unnecessary fork of Gnome with polarizing opinions (on top of the polarizing opinions of Gnome). I think shifting back to Gnome 3 is the right decision in the long run (especially since Debian uses Gnome 3). That said there are features of Unity I like, but not many.<div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Where do you see that Mir is going away? Not seeing it in the article. That said, I again agree that Mir is unnecessary when we have Wayland.<br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Ubuntu phone was, in my opinion, as DOA as Firefox OS and Tizen, and Windows Phone.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Tablets...i have very strong opinions about tablets that you can poke me about later.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Microsoft can't even get convergence right with Windows 10, and they have the money to do it, but then again this is Microsoft we are talking about. Android/Chrome OS are going to be closest we get (and it appears to largely be successful in Samsung's Galaxy S8, app support notwithstanding).</div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div></div><div class="m_-7944575713656242706m_6724017708106359998HOEnZb gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7944575713656242706m_6724017708106359998h5 gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 1:28 PM Brian Cluff <<a href="mailto:brian@snaptek.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">brian@snaptek.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><a href="https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/" rel="noreferrer" class="m_-7944575713656242706m_6724017708106359998m_5434634742155934920gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/</a><br class="m_-7944575713656242706m_6724017708106359998m_5434634742155934920gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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It's sad to see so much development get scrapped and I really wanted to<br class="m_-7944575713656242706m_6724017708106359998m_5434634742155934920gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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