More dysfunctional Ubuntu-isms

[Anon Anon]

I use Ubuntu on any computer I need to just work. I use it in all my
classes and courses. I use it at home. I use Arch on laptops though for
self improvement purposes.

I recommend Ubuntu to any one. I even use it as the base OS for 4 out of 4
of my servers. It works well and I like the tools it comes with. Never an
issue and always smooth sailing. The only improvement they could make would
be a stock i3wm xfce dm sans systemd release. So I don't have to do it
myself every time I install a desktop.

On Nov 3, 2016 03:54, "Steve Litt" <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:38:24 -0700
> Michael Butash <mike at butash.net> wrote:
>
> > So yet another chapter of ubuntu-isms begins in my life, trying to
> > install on my new desktop.  Step 1 defeat, their server install won't
> > even boot with a 16.04.1 server disk.  Internal cdrom or external usb
> > cdrom, no usb thumbdrive.
> >
> > Then tried a 16.04.1 desktop installer for kubuntu, which got into
> > setup, but proceeded to just lock up indefinitely at the drive setup
> > screen, twice.
> >
> > This is really why I have a hate/love relation with ubuntu, it never
> > fails to disappoint.  My road to 16.04 has been all upgrades so far,
> > this time I'm using 16.04.1 cd's from scratch.
>
> Curious: What do you love about it? You seem like the kind of person
> who could work with any distro.
>
> >
> > I really don't want to have to make a circle of distro's to end up
> > back here again, but ubuntu is always so basically dysfunctional
> > these days with the most basic things, it's hard to want to care.
> >
> > I wonder how much others have seen this.  This is with legacy boot in
> > bios, no uefi crap, and just a basic d-i based ubuntu server install,
> > and/or kubuntu.
>
> I used Ubuntu for several years because it "just works." The trouble
> was, as I got more sophisticated, Ubuntu's seatbelts and airbags and
> danger sensing devices and training wheels and all that other stuff so
> necessary to the newbie badly got in my way.
>
> So I ditched Ubuntu for Debian, and that was great, but then Debian
> went systemd so I switched to Void Linux, and after a rocky 5 weeks of
> Void newbie-ism, Void has turned out to be the most useful, maleable
> and stable distro I've ever used. I've used Void for over a year now.
>
> I think you've probably outgrown Ubuntu.
>
> BUT, as far as your current no-booting installer problem, I wonder if
> your media are bad. Just for fun, boot System Rescue CD and have a look
> around the system to verify no disk or RAM problems, and that the
> processor is what you think it is. If you can't boot System Rescue CD
> either, that points an accusing finger at your DVD drive.
>
> Also, try burning your disks with cdrecord (or wodim) instead of a gui.
> I use a command something like this:
>
> cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 padsize=63s driveropts=burnfree \
> -pad -dao -v -eject myimage.iso
>
> The padsize=63s and -pad help with the Linux readahead bug. Burnfree
> means you don't unknowingly make coasters or bad discs if your computer
> can't deliver the data fast enough.
>
> If you perform the burn like I mentioned above, you *should* be able to
> md5 check the disc to the same md5sum as the iso file by following
> directions here:
>
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm
>
> HTH,
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
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