<p dir="ltr">I use Ubuntu on any computer I need to just work. I use it in all my classes and courses. I use it at home. I use Arch on laptops though for self improvement purposes.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I recommend Ubuntu to any one. I even use it as the base OS for 4 out of 4 of my servers. It works well and I like the tools it comes with. Never an issue and always smooth sailing. The only improvement they could make would be a stock i3wm xfce dm sans systemd release. So I don't have to do it myself every time I install a desktop.</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 3, 2016 03:54, "Steve Litt" <<a href="mailto:slitt@troubleshooters.com">slitt@troubleshooters.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:38:24 -0700<br>
Michael Butash <<a href="mailto:mike@butash.net">mike@butash.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> So yet another chapter of ubuntu-isms begins in my life, trying to<br>
> install on my new desktop. Step 1 defeat, their server install won't<br>
> even boot with a 16.04.1 server disk. Internal cdrom or external usb<br>
> cdrom, no usb thumbdrive.<br>
><br>
> Then tried a 16.04.1 desktop installer for kubuntu, which got into<br>
> setup, but proceeded to just lock up indefinitely at the drive setup<br>
> screen, twice.<br>
><br>
> This is really why I have a hate/love relation with ubuntu, it never<br>
> fails to disappoint. My road to 16.04 has been all upgrades so far,<br>
> this time I'm using 16.04.1 cd's from scratch.<br>
<br>
Curious: What do you love about it? You seem like the kind of person<br>
who could work with any distro.<br>
<br>
><br>
> I really don't want to have to make a circle of distro's to end up<br>
> back here again, but ubuntu is always so basically dysfunctional<br>
> these days with the most basic things, it's hard to want to care.<br>
><br>
> I wonder how much others have seen this. This is with legacy boot in<br>
> bios, no uefi crap, and just a basic d-i based ubuntu server install,<br>
> and/or kubuntu.<br>
<br>
I used Ubuntu for several years because it "just works." The trouble<br>
was, as I got more sophisticated, Ubuntu's seatbelts and airbags and<br>
danger sensing devices and training wheels and all that other stuff so<br>
necessary to the newbie badly got in my way.<br>
<br>
So I ditched Ubuntu for Debian, and that was great, but then Debian<br>
went systemd so I switched to Void Linux, and after a rocky 5 weeks of<br>
Void newbie-ism, Void has turned out to be the most useful, maleable<br>
and stable distro I've ever used. I've used Void for over a year now.<br>
<br>
I think you've probably outgrown Ubuntu.<br>
<br>
BUT, as far as your current no-booting installer problem, I wonder if<br>
your media are bad. Just for fun, boot System Rescue CD and have a look<br>
around the system to verify no disk or RAM problems, and that the<br>
processor is what you think it is. If you can't boot System Rescue CD<br>
either, that points an accusing finger at your DVD drive.<br>
<br>
Also, try burning your disks with cdrecord (or wodim) instead of a gui.<br>
I use a command something like this:<br>
<br>
cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 padsize=63s driveropts=burnfree \<br>
-pad -dao -v -eject myimage.iso<br>
<br>
The padsize=63s and -pad help with the Linux readahead bug. Burnfree<br>
means you don't unknowingly make coasters or bad discs if your computer<br>
can't deliver the data fast enough.<br>
<br>
If you perform the burn like I mentioned above, you *should* be able to<br>
md5 check the disc to the same md5sum as the iso file by following<br>
directions here:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.troubleshooters.<wbr>com/linux/coasterless.htm</a><br>
<br>
HTH,<br>
<br>
SteveT<br>
<br>
Steve Litt<br>
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