Arch migration (success!!)

[Stephen Partington]

I have done it with my LVMcache based solution without issue. Currently am
running that on a Mac mini server If i could get a pair of spinners in
there with an SSD cache i would.


On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Michael Butash <michael at butash.net> wrote:

> How does one handle redundant disks *properly* or *officially* with EFI?
>
> First/Last time I dealt with EFI was an asus that had 2x SSD's (factory
> raid 0[!]) that I intended to raid 1 for redundancy vs. performance.  It
> had no legacy boot option at all (shame, asus), so I was forced to work
> with it.  I eventually got my recipe up on it with mdadm, crypto, and lvm
> with ubuntu after weeks of fiddling with it, but never really figured out a
> better way to deal with efi partition.  I had setup a cronjob to rsync the
> efi directory, never really tested the actual failure scenario and/or
> recovery however before I gave up on the laptop otherwise (and job).
>
> Maybe that is/was good enough, just wasn't sure how well the efi bios
> would switch up disks like that, as something at the time made me believe
> it wouldn't.  I've read efi is somewhat fakeraid aware, perhaps that's an
> option since mdadm works with fakeraids too...
>
> Surely I'm not the only one to do redundant disks in desktops, but do seem
> to be one of an odd few.
>
> -mb
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Kevin Fries <kevin at fries-biro.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I suspect the issue was more with UDev and those fancy new drives.  I
>> just wiped then installed Arch on a brand new HP laptop with GPT, zero
>> issues.  I especially like the lack of a separate /boot partition by
>> reusing the EFI/GPT boot sector.
>>
>> Personally, my install was very straightforward and stable as hell.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2016 9:13 AM, "Michael Butash" <michael at butash.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree, this is why I keep separate /usr partitions, both to allow for
>>> growth, and to monitor my growth.  Another weird thing Arch has such a
>>> difficult time booting with a separate /usr, more like the dev's ass-u-me
>>> again no one will *ever* do this...
>>>
>>> I started doing it as a means of checks for watching growth over the
>>> years.  In the old days of 8.04, usually a 4gb partition for /usr was fine,
>>> and less than a gig for actual root (/).  Now I fill /usr with at least 6gb
>>> of data on install it seems, 7-8gb is more the norm.
>>>
>>> Use of GPT is/was really trying to keep up with tech, where early days
>>> of SSD, fdisk was terrible about alignment, where most things can and still
>>> do say to use GPT.  Just no one tells you it is inherently broken still on
>>> most platforms to consider booting off of.
>>>
>>> I'd be more inclined to try EFI, but I'm fond of consistent raid
>>> approaches, even for boot partitions, where the inflexible FatFS nature of
>>> EFI partition just rubs me the wrong way as it can't be made natively
>>> redundant like I can with /boot being on mdraid partitions happily booting
>>> linux otherwise.  Curious what others do with redundancy around EFI desktop
>>> drives...
>>>
>>> Even without another shed of M$ on here, it still finds a way to screw
>>> things up.
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:17:38 -0700
>>>> Michael Butash <michael at butash.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I really had no idea GPT was such an anomaly still.  Everything I
>>>> > read was like "just do it!".  Not.
>>>>
>>>> At this point in time, laptop hard disks still aren't big enough to
>>>> require EFI, and desktops have multiple disks. So what I do on laptops
>>>> that can still do MBR is MBR format the hard disk.
>>>>
>>>> With my daily driver desktop, with a 4TB disk, and a 3TB disk, and a
>>>> 256GB SSD, I MBR boot to the SSD, which also contains the whole /usr
>>>> and /etc tree for easy bootability in these days of symlinked /usr. So
>>>> I get the advantages of GPT on my large disks, the simple booting of
>>>> MBR on my SSD: It works fast and beautifully.
>>>>
>>>> SteveT
>>>>
>>>> Steve Litt
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