OT: Linux - Stop holding our kids back

[Josef Lowder]

Love that word edjumacate.

I agree with you, Bob.  We all (all Linux enthusiasts) need a polite,
concise, effective way (website and perhaps other tools) to convey
useful, persuasive, information about the benefits of Linux and other
FOSS to the hoards who are so terribly in the dark.

One huge benefit, I think, would be to simply have a comprehensive
list of both major and name-recognition users who are mainly, if not
exclusively Linux users, and possibly also an impressive list of
quotable quotes from people of note (recognizable names, etc.)
about their use of and preference for Linux.

If folks would like to send such lists to me, I would be glad to try to
compile those lists on a web page, but it would be even better if
our PLUG website could have a link where anyone and everyone
could add to a list of names and quotable quotes.

Does anyone "out there" know of any such lists that already
exist (and are up to date)?

joe at actionline.com


On 12/10/08, Bob Elzer <bob.elzer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> How about  Im-a-pc-and-I-run-linux.com
>
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>  From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On
> Behalf Of James Mcphee
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:30 PM
> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: Re: OT: Linux - Stop holding our kids back
>
>
> Hmm...  Whether or not the story is real doesn't really affect us one way or
> the other.  I believe we can all agree that the action taken in this
> possibly fictitious account is not a good example of how to advance the FOSS
> cause.
>
> In the discussion, though, it seems that people have seen problems with
> educators needing educating about the alternatives to MS.  Does anyone know
> any good material that doesn't speak down to the lay-person?  I've found
> that most people, and cash-strapped educators particularly, are open to new
> information if presented in a non-threatening and non-confrontational
> manner.
>
> MS dumps billions into advertising with little to counter it.  It's no
> wonder the average joe/jane has a skewed perception of history and their
> current options.  I think having a simple response to someone spouting the
> MS tagline would be beneficial to the cause.  Something like "Please visit
> intelligent-sounding-site-name.com if you want to hear the
> other side of the story."  I've looked a bit, and most of the FOSS
> propoganda can best be described as erudite and at worst, rabid.  Does
> anyone know of a good site that can be referenced to ejumacate folks?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:31:27 -0700
> > >> From: jjzeidner at gmail.com
> > >> To: plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > >> Subject: Re: OT: Linux - Stop holding our kids back
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Alex Dean <alex at crackpot.org> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Mike Hoy <mhoy06 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Personally I believe that this blog is false. I think it was made
> up
> > >> >>>> just to spark a FOSS/MS debate, just like this one we're having
> now!
> > >> >>>> :)
> > >> >>>> Just smells a little fishy to me...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I was thinking the exact same thing.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Same here... the story seems very fabricated.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Could be. But the "believe me because you're dumber than me" attitude
> > >> > that
> > >> > the blogger takes toward this teacher (fictional or no) is quite
> real,
> > >> > and a
> > >> > problem that many of us suffer from.
> > >>
> > >> well that does contribute to my opinion... seems like hes creating
> > >> this effigy of the evil anti-OSS person and then tearing her apart.
> > >> The whole thing just seems generally like a stupid scheme concocted by
> > >> some sophomoric linux user. Note that there are no sources, no real
> > >> names, what looks like some kind of institutional name (but you can't
> > >> make out what it is). Ive seen totally false stories like this
> > >> propagate through the net, so I have my doubts.
> > >>
> > >> -jmz
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > I think it's a barrier to spreading free software when its advocates
> are
> > >> > poor at making a point non-technical people will understand and
> relate
> > >> > to.
> > >> > That was the point of my initial comment, and I think valid
> regardless
> > >> > of
> > >> > the underlying facts of this particular story. Don't tell people why
> > >> > they're wrong/misguided/stupid. It only turns people off. Focus on
> > >> > what's
> > >> > good about what you're doing, not what's bad about what they're
> doing.
> > >> >
> > >> > alex
> > >> >
> > >
> > > Yes it's an urban anti-technology myth, cleverly posted here by trolls!
> >
> >  awesome picture.  I wonder if those things are genetically related to
> Furbys.
> >
> >  an interesting thing I've noticed in recent years is that 'troll'
> > has come to be used interchangeably with 'someone who doesnt agree
> > with me'.
> >
> >  -jmz
> >
> >
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