Serious cabling problem

Sat, 29 Sep 2001 13:29:23 -0700

Kimi, if you've got 100-pair 12 year old telco cable you won't be able
to use it like Cat5.  If you can find good pairs, it'll work for analog
phone or possibly ...er, LocalTalk - dark-ages Appletalk LAN that's only
of historical interest.

FWIW: If you get fiber installed, it's well worth it to run some extra
pairs for redundancy or expansion.  More economical than adding them
later and really handy when one fails.

If the buildings are only 50 feet apart, I'd be pricing 100-foot Cat5
patch cables and conduit; I'm prone to cheap kluges, a.k.a. "field
expedient" solutions though.

"Kimi A. Adams" wrote:
> 
> The reason that I am running or attempting to run connectivity to T-1 is
> because DSL is maxed out here.  The owner wanted another solution, which we
> have but the cabling is too old to work with.  It's not 100 pair CAT 5
> apparently.
> 
> But, I do have a referral who is coming Monday to determine the quality of
> the wiring and make a solution.
> 
> I want to thank everyone that has replied as every bit of information you
> have given me has been tested today or attempted.  I can always count on
> the PLUG to come through for me.  Thanks a bunch.
> 
> Kimi A. Adams
> Unity Wave
> 602-375-5363
> 
> At 9/28/01 02:35 PM, you wrote:
> >You might want to consider running DSL over the
> >copper pair is the lenght is too long for ethernet.
> >Companies like ADC make roll-your-own campus DSL
> >systems.
> >
> > > Kimi,
> > >
> > > So are you trying to run ethernet between these
> > > buildings?  You'll likely be out of spec if you are
> > > (distance limitations).  If you have a decent cable
> > > path between these buildings, it might be worth your
> > > while to look at having someone run fiber.  Anyone
> > > done this recently?  I have no idea what price range
> > > that will be in these days.  Last time I was involved
> > > was 1996 with GTE? and Texas A&M.  If you run fiber,
> > > you can go straight into a switch or router and still
> > > be well within distance specifications.
> > >
> > > Jeff B.
> > >
> > > --- "Kimi A. Adams" <kimi@unitywave.com> wrote:
> > > > Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, connectivity.  I am not sure of the distance
> > > > specifically but there is
> > > > a small parking lot between buildings.  The parking
> > > > lot is two rows of
> > > > spaces adjacent to each other.  It must be 50 feet
> > > > between and each room is
> > > > about in the middle of each building.
> > > >
> > > > We believe that it is a color coding problem.  I
> > > > have pictures on the way
> > > > of how to exactly punch down and connect the CAT 5
> > > > regarding the colors.
> > > >
> > > > Kimi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 9/28/01 09:31 AM, you wrote:
> > > > >Kimi,
> > > > >
> > > > >What kind of distance are you talking about between
> > > > >buildings?  I assume when you say you're plugging a
> > > > >computer in one end, and a router in the other,
> > > > that
> > > > >you're talking about different buildings, eh?
> > > > >
> > > > >Are you actually trying to provision a T1 to these
> > > > >buildings?  Or just establish connectivity between
> > > > the
> > > > >buildings?  If it's just connectivity, you'll have
> > > > a
> > > > >tough time generating your own T1 circuit, and
> > > > you'll
> > > > >likely be better off with some extended distance
> > > > >connectivity, like fiber.  So:
> > > > >
> > > > >Connectivity, or T1?
> > > > >What kind of distance?
> > > > >
> > > > >JB.
> > > > >
> > > > >--- "Kimi A. Adams" <kimi@unitywave.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I am having a problem with cabling in my office
> > > > > > building.  The guy that
> > > > > > runs the phone lines here was an old Ma Bell
> > > > > > technician.  His terminology
> > > > > > and ours don't mix and his wiring between
> > > > building
> > > > > > A, B and C is lashed 100
> > > > > > pair cable that was put in about 12 years ago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The situation is that we wish to provision T-1
> > > > > > connection from building A
> > > > > > to the other buildings.  There are punch down
> > > > > > terminals being used.  The
> > > > > > lines tone out according to Ken, the phone guy.
> > > > > > Andy, my tech here, seems
> > > > > > to believe that the lines may be crossed between
> > > > the
> > > > > > two buildings'
> > > > > > terminal rooms.  That's because when he connects
> > > > a
> > > > > > CAT 5 line with RJ45
> > > > > > connector on either end, one hooked to our
> > > > router
> > > > > > and one hook into the
> > > > > > building B terminal room punch down terminal
> > > > block,
> > > > > > then hooks a computer
> > > > > > to it, there is no juice.  One thing (ducking
> > > > would
> > > > > > be nice right now) that
> > > > > > I know (which is little about frequency, baud
> > > > and
> > > > > > such on these lines) is
> > > > > > that if juice isn't there, we must need some
> > > > type of
> > > > > > interface on the other
> > > > > > end.  What that may be is quite confusing to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bottom line, I need to know if someone can take
> > > > the
> > > > > > time out to help me
> > > > > > out.  If you have done this before and can
> > > > assist
> > > > > > please call either Kimi
> > > > > > or Andy at 602-375-5363.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kimi Adams
> > > > > > Unity Wave
> > > > > > 602-375-5363
> > > > > > www.unitywave.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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