Re: KDE turned 22 today

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Author: Michael Butash
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To: PLUG Phoenix List
Subject: Re: KDE turned 22 today
I wouldn't say *all* they need to do, considering all the issues I've seen
trying to use it over the past decade and a half.

For me, their multi-monitor support is still dysfunctional since the 4.0
days when I began using 3-6 displays. I use kde when I can on my laptop,
but even when using an external laptop there, or my 3 displays on my
desktop, it's still always really weird in a number of ways. Their kwin
compositor really sucks at ultra high resolutions too, totally destabilizes
the os over time. High res as in 3x 4k displays at 11520x2160, which is
quickly becoming the new norm in displays, it can't seem to keep up and not
leak itself to death.

I've been posting and arguing with the kde folk on multi-monitor issues for
years <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356225> about some of the more
annoying behaviors, and I'm not alone as the thread is quite long, and
there are many others. I end up using cinnamon as a result now mostly.
KDE4 they marked the worst issues multi-mon issues (refusing to save
display arrangement settings!) as "won't fix", and still haven't made
things much better in 5. Here's hope for future versions, maybe some new
blood will give a damn to fix persistent core display issues and quit
worrying about pedantic visuals.

My laptop is really odd - I can't even start kde on it since upgrading
16.04 to 18.04 ubuntu. Not taking the time to debug it, but using default
ubuntu gnome, which I hate almost as much as Unity until I can fix it.

I'd love to hear from someone actually using kmail too. I've tried at
least a half-dozen times over the years to use it in place of thunderbird,
but it never fails to crap all over itself in broken ways, fetching,
indexing, and in general just crashing with different imap services. I
finally just got used to gmail in chrome with some extensions.

KRDC, a KDE app for windoze rdp and vnc client, still after at least 6-8
years will randomly change the entire key mapping during use. You don't
really realize what is going on until windows change, things start closing,
and random selections occur as you type. Then I realize I need to shut it
down and restart the rdp session because it went stupid again. I assume
I'm the only person still using it.

One thing I absolutely love that I still run under Cinnamon is KDE Connect
for phone integration with an android client. Mostly because when I get a
call, it mutes my music automatically, and can control my pc remotely.
About the only reminder of KDE left I use that doesn't annoy me.

KDE and derivative apps are great in concept, but otherwise leaves much to
be desired for long-term use with these nagging persistent issues that
never get fixed, which using it off and on again over 15 years or so I
think I can say with experience. So much potential squandered imho.

-mb

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 11:00 PM Eric Oyen <> wrote:

> Now, all they need to do to make KDE perfect: add screen reader
> accessibility as an API. This way, ORCA could be used.
>
> -Eric
>
>
> > On Oct 14, 2018, at 10:09 PM, der.hans <> wrote:
> >
> > moin moin,
> >
> > today is the 22nd anniversary of the start of KDE.
> >
> > https://www.kde.org/announcements/announcement.php
> >
> > KDE has a timeline of important milestones starting with the creation of
> > UNIX.
> >
> > https://timeline.kde.org/
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > der.hans
> > --
> > # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org
> > # "I interviewed Jonathan Winters once in the late '80s, it was as if
> he were
> > # narrating a hallucination that I didn't see." -- Terry Gross,
> 03Aug2006
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