AZ Developer Wages, per Feds

Ryan Petris ryan at petris.net
Thu Apr 25 12:19:58 MST 2024


As a software developer of 15 years, I personally would not want a union, at least not one in a traditional sense. Additionally, I've never been in a union so maybe my understanding is wrong or outdated, however my reasoning for not wanting one are:
 1. I want my salary/benefits to be based on what I personally can bring to the table.
 2. Similarly to #1, if I and/or my team perform better than the rest of the company, I want us to be recognized for that *and* compensated appropriately.
 3. I don't want to start at the bottom of the totem pole at a new company because I'm the new guy.
 4. I don't want to work with people that should have been let go due to their performance but are effectively being protected by the union.
 5. I don't want to be forced to strike because the union is playing political games that I don't care about.
There's a time and place for unions; when you're in the top 10% of national salaries, you're not in a position to need one.

All that said, I work remotely, for a company that's not based in Arizona, and therefore am paid relatively well compared to the local Market.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2024, at 11:53 AM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> 
> would it be time to unionize or change the way business is done in AZ?
> 
> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 11:50:10 AM MST, trent shipley <trent.shipley at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> No.  As a rule software engineers/programmers/developers/computer scientists all see themselves as professionals who are above unionizing and seldom or never do.  I think we're seeing the effect of Arizona being a provincial, 3rd world location for headquarters and software development options.   
> 
> It's similar to "we make the chips.  We aren't friken good enough to DESIGN the chips.  They do that in NICE places."
> 
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 9:35 AM greg zegan <gjzegan at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Wow!
>> thanks.
>> sure look like they are taking advantage of the Right to work state workers.
>> 
>> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 09:08:07 AM MST, trent shipley via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
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>> https://www.onetonline.org/link/localwages/15-1251.00?st=AZ
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