H1B Visa

[George Toft]

Jumping a little late . .

"So what if they get paid $10-$20k lower annual salaries?" <-- not even 
close where I work.  How about $60-80K lower?

My employer pays Tata Consulting $66K/year for DBA's.  They keep 1/3 so 
the H1B worker gets $44K.  That's $22/hr - soon to be just double 
minimum wage.  This H1B worker usually comes with a Master's Degree in 
Computer Science or similar.

Find me one American with a Graduate Degree in Science willing to work 
for $22/hr.  Yes, the struggle is real to find talent [that will work 
for peanuts].  Almost everyone I know makes more than that, except those 
in the fast-food industry.  So where's the incentive to get a degree?

I call it "exploitation."

Regards,

George Toft

On 11/8/2016 10:46 AM, David Schwartz wrote:
>
> More propaganda from right-wing pro-corporate anti-American talking 
> heads about a topic they are ill-informed about.
>
> (Most Americans have no clue about US immigraion laws.)
>
> The recent Defense Appropriations Budget opened the floodgates to H-1B 
> visas, thanks to non-stop lobbying from large US tech firms like 
> Microsoft, Oracle, Apple, Dell, etc.
>
> I saw something a while back on cable channel that covers congress, 
> and it was a public meeting of some sort about H-1B issues. 
> Representatives from Microsoft, HP, and some huge consulting firm.
>
> One interesting thing they all agreed upon was that their budget for 
> prosecuting each H-1B visa was $50k. This was ONLY for the legal fees! 
> Then there was salary, benefits, relocation, and later on the legal 
> fees and relocation expenses for their family members.
>
> Forget about annual salaries for a minute, which I don’t believe are 
> really that much lower for people residing here in America and 
> awaiting permanent residency (green cards).
>
> Here’s what job offers for US Citizens would look like if they were 
> comparable to H-1B offers:
>
>  *
>
>     $50k hiring bonus (used for legal fees)
>
>  *
>
>     Full relocation (from overseas, way more expensive than even
>     across country in USA)
>
>  *
>
>     Guaranteed job for 6-10 years (how long it takes for green cards
>     to issue)
>
>  *
>
>     Guaranteed on-the-job training for whatever new projects these
>     people are destined to fill during their 6-10 year tenure
>
>  *
>
>     Full relocation to other cities that might have projects these
>     people can fill to keep employed
>
>  *
>
>     Tacit agreement to never complain, never file any kind of labor
>     actions or lawsuits against the company for any reason at all
>
> So what if they get paid $10-$20k lower annual salaries?
>
> Would YOU accept a job with these “benefits” for a slightly lower 
> salary like this???
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>     On Nov 8, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Keith Smith
>     <techlists at phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     While at the polls I talked with a man running for Chandler City
>     Council who told me the H1B Visa was necessary because there are
>     not enough qualified Americans to fill those positions.
>
>     I do not agree. And if it is true then why, for example, is there
>     no Microsoft University that finds those with the talent and help
>     develop them into the qualified employee they are looking for? It
>     is my understanding M$ is one of the biggest users of the H1B Visa
>     program.
>
>     This is an example of there not being an shortage. -->> McDonald's
>     lays off 70 American accountants from Ohio and gives their jobs to
>     foreign workers as part of cost-cutting exercise
>
>     http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3800381/McDonald-s-lays-70-American-accountants-Ohio-gives-jobs-foreign-workers-cost-cutting-measure.html
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