systemd [NOT?] (was Re: Void Linux tips)

[Stephen Partington]

Any plans on taking over mac hardware?

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Jerry Snitselaar <dev at snitselaar.org>
wrote:

> On Fri Oct 23 15, Keith Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2015-10-23 08:56, Matt Graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/22/2015 10:42 AM, kitepilot at kitepilot.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why are all the distros systemd(ing) disregarding the opposition?
>>>>>> What am I missing...   :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Redhat wants systemd, and many smaller distros follow Redhat's lead.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It appears from what I have read, that Redhat created systemd either
>> directly or indirectly. The two programmers who created systemd, Lennart
>> Poettering and Kay Sievers, appear to have been working for RedHat when
>> they created systemd.  Directly or indirectly RedHat was involved and based
>> on that I would hope that RHEL 7 is the most proper and best implementation.
>>
>>
> Yes, both Lennart and Kay are employees here, but it started as a
> personal project and other people were involved. At the time it was
> first developed Kay was working for Novell on SuSE. It came about
> because they believed the design of Upstart was flawed, so systemd was
> their answer as to what they thought a modern init system could
> be. Fedora will have the latest and greatest bits since things tend to
> go through there first before making their way into RHEL.
>
>
>
>>
>>> On 2015-10-22 13:55, Bob Elzer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Coming from centos 6 to 7, at first I was whoa, but after seeing how
>>>> fast it booted I loved it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Boot speed is a must-have for people?  This is a bit strange to me.
>>> How often do you reboot your machine?  I only do that on my personal
>>> machines for kernel upgrades or power failures.  Everything else is
>>> suspend-to-disk or suspend-to-RAM while the machine's not in use.  For
>>> the physical machines at work, POST takes a lot longer than SysV init,
>>> so using systemd would not help very much.
>>>
>>> GNOME3 having a hard dependency on systemd means that a lot of people
>>> will pretty much have to install it.  If any frequently-used thing
>>> (MariaDB, postgres, nginx...) decides to use systemd for something,
>>> that'll be another set of annoyances for people who don't want
>>> systemd.  At least openrc is still around, so people can write init
>>> scripts in bash *and* have dependency tracking/parallel startup if
>>> they want....
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Keith Smith
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