systemd [NOT?] (was Re: Void Linux tips)

[Jerry Snitselaar]

On Fri Oct 23 15, Keith Smith wrote:
>On 2015-10-23 08:56, Matt Graham wrote:
>>>>On 10/22/2015 10:42 AM, kitepilot at kitepilot.com wrote:
>>>>>Why are all the distros systemd(ing) disregarding the opposition?
>>>>>What am I missing...   :(
>>
>>Redhat wants systemd, and many smaller distros follow Redhat's lead.
>
>
>It appears from what I have read, that Redhat created systemd either 
>directly or indirectly. The two programmers who created systemd, 
>Lennart Poettering and Kay Sievers, appear to have been working for 
>RedHat when they created systemd.  Directly or indirectly RedHat was 
>involved and based on that I would hope that RHEL 7 is the most proper 
>and best implementation.
>

Yes, both Lennart and Kay are employees here, but it started as a
personal project and other people were involved. At the time it was
first developed Kay was working for Novell on SuSE. It came about
because they believed the design of Upstart was flawed, so systemd was
their answer as to what they thought a modern init system could
be. Fedora will have the latest and greatest bits since things tend to
go through there first before making their way into RHEL.

>
>>
>>On 2015-10-22 13:55, Bob Elzer wrote:
>>>Coming from centos 6 to 7, at first I was whoa, but after seeing how
>>>fast it booted I loved it.
>>
>>Boot speed is a must-have for people?  This is a bit strange to me.
>>How often do you reboot your machine?  I only do that on my personal
>>machines for kernel upgrades or power failures.  Everything else is
>>suspend-to-disk or suspend-to-RAM while the machine's not in use.  For
>>the physical machines at work, POST takes a lot longer than SysV init,
>>so using systemd would not help very much.
>>
>>GNOME3 having a hard dependency on systemd means that a lot of people
>>will pretty much have to install it.  If any frequently-used thing
>>(MariaDB, postgres, nginx...) decides to use systemd for something,
>>that'll be another set of annoyances for people who don't want
>>systemd.  At least openrc is still around, so people can write init
>>scripts in bash *and* have dependency tracking/parallel startup if
>>they want....
>
>-- 
>Keith Smith
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