python

Sat Apr 11 10:36:49 MST 2015

funny thing.... the python on my system is already python3

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Todd Millecam <tyggna at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, you should not worry about it.
>
> My entire career, doing full-out conversions from python 2 to python 3
> I've run into only two problems.
>
> 1)  In python 3, you need to output stuff via a print() as opposed to a
> print "" in python 2
> 2)  python 3 defaults all character encodings to unicode, whereas python 2
> needed a unicode string specified with a u''
> by python 3.4, they made it so the u'' syntax is ignored and just made
> into a string.
>
> Often, to get python3, it's a package named python3
>
> Also, everything I've seen from the head-first series is basically just
> fluff where the authors care more about hearing themselves talk than they
> do about covering the subject matter.
>
> Honestly, getting ipython/bpython installed and just tab-completing
> everything and using the built-in documentation is as good as any textbook,
> but starting out that way is kinda difficult.
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I do have a concern though; the programs are written in Python3. In 'The
>> Hard Way' the author is very adament about NOT using Python3. Should I
>> worry about that? How would I go about installing Python3 with apt-get?
>> 2.7.6 is what is installed on my system now.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yea James. thanks. I wish they had a free version but i suppose $50
>>> isn't bad for a text book?
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:21 PM, James Dugger <james.dugger at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you are new to programming look at
>>>> "Head First Programming: A learner 's guide to programming using the
>>>> Python language" by David Griffiths and Paul Barry.
>>>>
>>>> The Head First books take a different approach to learning.  I gave
>>>> this book to my 10 year old son who used it to learn programming and Python.
>>>> On Apr 5, 2015 12:24 PM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No problem. I am doing it (badly) "... the hard way."
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:21 PM, James Mcphee <jmcphe at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> sorry for not responding sooner, michael.  everyone learns in their
>>>>>> own way.  if a course is not for you, I can at least point you at how I
>>>>>> pick up new languages.  what works for me is the old "scratch an itch"
>>>>>> process.  find something that you want to do, and do it with a language.
>>>>>>  start small, maybe checking your email or twitter.  it's a matter of
>>>>>> getting some inertia behind you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please expand. How would you recommend I go about to learn this (not
>>>>>>> in a formal setting)? I can not afford to take classes and because of a
>>>>>>> head injury doubt I could complete it successfully anyways.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In your list I notice you do not mention learning any programming
>>>>>>> language. Why is that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you mean by "OS shell integration"?  Is that saying I need
>>>>>>> to learn BASH as opposed to Python?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "string operations must mean BASH....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when you say "regular expressions"  is this a good resource here
>>>>>>> <http://www.aboutlinux.info/2006/01/learn-how-to-use-regular-expressions.html>?
>>>>>>> Would I use this with BASH or Python or both?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I notice that in http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ there is a
>>>>>>> section that covers using Python with websites so handling and forming
>>>>>>> automated web requests is probably covered in more advanced  Python
>>>>>>> tutorials.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So to sum it up I think I need to learn Python and BASH. Is this
>>>>>>> correct? I also need to learn XML,  JSON  (what do you mean when you say
>>>>>>> "from xml.dom import minidom ; import json") and SQL
>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For all the pen testing and hacker stuff I went through (7 some odd
>>>>>>> years ago), here's what you'll want to know how to do, in approximate order
>>>>>>> of priority:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> xml and json parsing (from xml.dom import minidom ; import json)
>>>>>>> connecting to and using a database (learn enough SQL to be able to
>>>>>>> navigate around one here too), learning sqlalchemy will be enough to land
>>>>>>> you a job in the field
>>>>>>> OS shell integration (import os)
>>>>>>> string operations
>>>>>>> regular expressions (import re)
>>>>>>> handling and forming automated web requests
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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