How smart is S.M.A.R.T.?

[Stephen Partington]

Dell currently uses allot of seagate drives. I have generally been a huge
fan of Western Digital. they have always been very reliable for me and have
doe very well for longevity in both server and desktop applications.

I personally have had issues with seagate drives longevity, however their
hybrid drives have been getting a very different reaction. so i decided to
try one in my kids computer.

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Keith Smith <techlists at phpcoderusa.com>
wrote:

> Sorry to hear Seagate is not as good as Hitachi.  As I recall, there was a
> discussion on this list about who was the best and I think Hitachi took a
> lot of hits.  I think Dell puts Seagate drives in their boxes.
>
> What manufacture makes the best today?
>
>
>
>
> On 2014-10-17 22:05, Brian Cluff wrote:
>
>> Seagate has been cranking out such bad drives lately, I think I would
>> rather have a used hitachi than a new seagate.
>>
>> Brian Cluff
>>
>> On 10/17/2014 08:43 AM, techlists at phpcoderusa.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If you have credible evidence that Seagate is selling used Hitachi
>>> drives as new and under their label I'm sure your State Attorney General
>>> would like to hear from you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-10-17 10:08, George Toft wrote:
>>>
>>>> How many [thousand] hours on the drive?  I think you're gambling if
>>>> you have more than 26,000 hours (3 years) and ESPECIALLY if it's
>>>> really a Hitachi drive.  Seagate bought Hitachi recently, and from
>>>> what I've seen, are selling used Hitachi drives as "new" Seagate
>>>> drives - check the model number and the run hours!
>>>>
>>>> Hard drives are killing me this year - I've spent over 80 hours in
>>>> rework because of failed drives - especially with Seatachi drives (see
>>>> above).  80 hours of rework at no pay is a painful lesson.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> George Toft
>>>>
>>>> On 9/11/2014 4:06 PM, parabellum7 at yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Greetings!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 500GB Seagate ST3500312CS SATA drive salvaged from a
>>>>> decommissioned DVR. The DVR's OS said SMART status OK. The latest
>>>>> Seatools disk utility from the Seagate website says the drive is A-OK
>>>>> (short test, long test, full erase, re-test) no errors found.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, the Gnome disk utility in Mint 17 says 'Threshold not
>>>>> exceeded' and 'Disk is OK, 178 bad sectors'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some other SMART attributes displayed:
>>>>>
>>>>> ID1        Read Error Rate: 152141757
>>>>> ID5      Reallocated Sector Count: 178 sectors
>>>>> ID187     Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 0 sectors
>>>>> ID198    Uncorrectable Sector Count: 0 sectors
>>>>> ID199    UDMA CRC Error Rate: 0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> GSmart Control 0.8.7 is reading the same thing, 178 sectors, but also
>>>>> says it's OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> running an e2fsck from gparted reports 0 bad blocks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also retested in another machine with different cables to
>>>>> minimize the possibility of bogus hardware or BIOS issues, but the
>>>>> results remain the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seagate's website has a FAQ that says their tools should be the final
>>>>> say as they're designed to work correctly with their drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Normally a bad sector or two wouldn't bother me, I have drives that
>>>>> have been running for years like that. I just keep backups fresh and
>>>>> check for bad sector growth. A few bad sectors is within spec and
>>>>> that's why HDD's have a reserved area. Yet somehow 178 sectors seems
>>>>> like a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I trust this drive for anything more than a paperweight?
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I trust anything with the words 'smart', 'affordable', or
>>>>> 'free' in the name?  ;]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --Kenn
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Stephen
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