<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Dell currently uses allot of seagate drives. I have generally been a huge fan of Western Digital. they have always been very reliable for me and have doe very well for longevity in both server and desktop applications.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">I personally have had issues with seagate drives longevity, however their hybrid drives have been getting a very different reaction. so i decided to try one in my kids computer.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Keith Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Sorry to hear Seagate is not as good as Hitachi. As I recall, there was a discussion on this list about who was the best and I think Hitachi took a lot of hits. I think Dell puts Seagate drives in their boxes.<br>
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What manufacture makes the best today?<br>
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On 2014-10-17 22:05, Brian Cluff wrote:<br>
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Seagate has been cranking out such bad drives lately, I think I would<br>
rather have a used hitachi than a new seagate.<br>
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Brian Cluff<br>
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On 10/17/2014 08:43 AM, <a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a> wrote:<br>
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If you have credible evidence that Seagate is selling used Hitachi<br>
drives as new and under their label I'm sure your State Attorney General<br>
would like to hear from you.<br>
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On 2014-10-17 10:08, George Toft wrote:<br>
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How many [thousand] hours on the drive? I think you're gambling if<br>
you have more than 26,000 hours (3 years) and ESPECIALLY if it's<br>
really a Hitachi drive. Seagate bought Hitachi recently, and from<br>
what I've seen, are selling used Hitachi drives as "new" Seagate<br>
drives - check the model number and the run hours!<br>
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Hard drives are killing me this year - I've spent over 80 hours in<br>
rework because of failed drives - especially with Seatachi drives (see<br>
above). 80 hours of rework at no pay is a painful lesson.<br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
George Toft<br>
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On 9/11/2014 4:06 PM, <a href="mailto:parabellum7@yahoo.com" target="_blank">parabellum7@yahoo.com</a> wrote:<br>
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Greetings!<br>
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I have a 500GB Seagate ST3500312CS SATA drive salvaged from a<br>
decommissioned DVR. The DVR's OS said SMART status OK. The latest<br>
Seatools disk utility from the Seagate website says the drive is A-OK<br>
(short test, long test, full erase, re-test) no errors found.<br>
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However, the Gnome disk utility in Mint 17 says 'Threshold not<br>
exceeded' and 'Disk is OK, 178 bad sectors'.<br>
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Some other SMART attributes displayed:<br>
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ID1 Read Error Rate: 152141757<br>
ID5 Reallocated Sector Count: 178 sectors<br>
ID187 Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 0 sectors<br>
ID198 Uncorrectable Sector Count: 0 sectors<br>
ID199 UDMA CRC Error Rate: 0<br>
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GSmart Control 0.8.7 is reading the same thing, 178 sectors, but also<br>
says it's OK.<br>
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running an e2fsck from gparted reports 0 bad blocks.<br>
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I've also retested in another machine with different cables to<br>
minimize the possibility of bogus hardware or BIOS issues, but the<br>
results remain the same.<br>
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Seagate's website has a FAQ that says their tools should be the final<br>
say as they're designed to work correctly with their drives.<br>
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Normally a bad sector or two wouldn't bother me, I have drives that<br>
have been running for years like that. I just keep backups fresh and<br>
check for bad sector growth. A few bad sectors is within spec and<br>
that's why HDD's have a reserved area. Yet somehow 178 sectors seems<br>
like a lot.<br>
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Should I trust this drive for anything more than a paperweight?<br>
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Should I trust anything with the words 'smart', 'affordable', or<br>
'free' in the name? ;]<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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--Kenn<br>
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