Why have HackFests been Dropped from the PLUG Schedule?

[Kaoru Wilbur]

Definitely! Thanks for that.

When asked what I would do with my pi, I mentioned I was going to do a Tor
Relay. One member looked at me, laughed and said, Good luck with that.

Another time, I was assisting someone with an install. The idiot next to me
was flinching twitching and making grunting noises.
Finally, I turned off the machine and said, "And what would you do?!"
He made a suggestion which was what I actually had done already.
The woman who I was assisting even said, "Isn't that what you were doing"

Another incident was when I stated that one member of the installfests was
rude and if Todd didn't take care of that, I would. I was accused of
threatening this member when I was simply stating in front of a group of
people that Mark was a rude arrogant problem that needed to be dealt with.

Now, maybe, it's just Todd. However, I went to leadership who did nothing
until I started making noise at a higher level. The noise wasn't even about
the gender bias but the push on Ubuntu and the treatment of members.
Incidentally, when I went to local leadership, he acted as if I were lying
before any investigation.

Women come to your meetings and then leave. Maybe the general population of
the group do not realize why because so many people come and go from the
PLUG. Maybe people think women cannot handle the content or that they are
leaving because of other reasons.

I was all but pushed out of your old boys club. In fact, Todd stated he
didn't want me at the installfests. Was that because I was insisting on
positive change or because I was female. You tell me? He laughed at me
several times. Of course, he was not that nice to other members either. I
never noticed him condescend to any of the males though.

There is gender bias. Maybe not at your local meetings because it's just
ALL LECTURE.



On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Shawn Badger <shawn at badger.pro> wrote:

> I have been in the PLUG for a while now and have not seen any gender bias.
> Can you point to any examples of how the group is gender biased so the
> group can work on those issues?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Kaoru Wilbur <m.kaoru.wilbur at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> hans,
>>
>> I am sorry you cannot take a joke.
>> Of course, sexual harassment is no joking matter.
>> Accusations of this are quite serious.
>>
>> I never witnessed anything or experienced sexual harassment.
>>
>> Gender bias is quite obvious in your LUG.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:44 PM, der.hans <PLUGd at lufthans.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 01. Dez, 2014 schwätzte Kaoru Wilbur so:
>>>
>>>  Well, this was an interesting thread.
>>>> I would like to chime in here for a moment.
>>>>
>>>> While I have not experienced unwanted sexually advances by anyone at
>>>> PLUG
>>>> in recent years, I will state there is a gender bias, definitely.
>>>>
>>>> Some people may not experience this gender bias because, well frankly,
>>>> we
>>>> are unsure of your gender...
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's uncalled for, especially right as you're claiming there is gender
>>> bias.
>>>
>>>  All joking aside, as a community, we really could be a little more
>>>> thoughtful, tactful and less like assholes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Most of us do a good job. Over the years there have only been problems
>>> with a few people. Most adjust their behavior when it's pointed out.
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
>>> --
>>> #  http://www.LuftHans.com/        http://www.PhxLinux.org/
>>> #  "Every person who has mastered a profession is a skeptic concerning
>>> #  it." -- George Bernard Shaw
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.phxlinux.org/pipermail/plug-discuss/attachments/20141202/68e945d4/attachment.html>