How to promote Plug's value - was: Are Social Networks ...

[Michael Havens]

if you really want to increas membership combine asulug and PLUG.
:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> the only thing I see wrong with PLUG (if you want growth) is that they
> don't advertise. But then again, aren't there always new-comers at
> installfests?
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:29 PM, der.hans <PLUGd at lufthans.com> wrote:
>
>> Am 07. May, 2013 schwätzte Lisa Kachold so:
>>
>> moin moin Lisa,
>>
>>  A "steering committee" is clearly not a group of officers, with a
>>> mission,
>>> term, and empowered to meet various roles in the community, therefore,
>>> the
>>>
>>
>> Why is it not? In the case of PLUG, it is essentially a group of officers
>> with a mission and empowered to meet various roles in the community.
>>
>> In any case, it's the volunteers who do things that decide the direction
>> for PLUG.
>>
>>  loose, possibly anarchic PLUG control and growth never evolve.   Did the
>>> PLUG ever obtain non-profit status riding under another 501-3C?  Why not?
>>>
>>
>> Running a 501(c)3 requires follow-through. That's something we haven't
>> accomplished any of the times we've worked to start one. In any case, it's
>> orthogonal to what PLUG needs. It's a red herring.
>>
>>  Committee".  Can you tell me who are the members of the Steering
>>> Committee,
>>> and what they do or just who decides who is on that Committee (again
>>> Hans,
>>> right)?
>>>
>>
>> Lisa, for years you've been making these inaccurate claims and for years
>> you've been corrected. Please stop. We get regular comments about having a
>> behaved and useful list. False claims detract from that.
>>
>> PLUG is not run by me or any other single person. PLUG activities happen
>> because volunteers put in the effort to make them happen. I am not
>> involved in the Installfests or the security meetings. They happen because
>> volunteers such as yourself make them happen.
>>
>> I also do not control the steering committee or any other aspect of
>> PLUG. At least one person has made it on the steering committee against my
>> vote. Majority winѕ.
>>
>>  I am not just complaining, I am comparing from an educated experienced
>>> viewpoint, for the purposes of PLUG Change and GROWTH!
>>>
>>
>> Fine, make comparisons. Explain what you've learned from experience.
>> That's good and positive.
>>
>> Repeatedly making false claims is not helpful. Your false claims also
>> distract and obscure anything positive you might be trying to accomplish.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
>> --
>> #  http://www.LuftHans.com/        http://www.LuftHans.com/**Classes/<http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/>
>> #  Free, Libre, and Open Source enthusiasts are collaborators. Maybe we're
>> #  involved for slightly different reasons, but in the end, we're all
>> #  essentially trying to go the same direction. -- der.hans, 2012Jan25
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