if you really want to increas membership combine asulug and PLUG.<br clear="all"><div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Michael Havens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
the only thing I see wrong with PLUG (if you want growth) is that they don't advertise. But then again, aren't there always new-comers at installfests?<br clear="all"><div>:-)~MIKE~(-:</div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:29 PM, der.hans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PLUGd@lufthans.com" target="_blank">PLUGd@lufthans.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
Am 07. May, 2013 schwätzte Lisa Kachold so:<br>
<br>
moin moin Lisa,<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
A "steering committee" is clearly not a group of officers, with a mission,<br>
term, and empowered to meet various roles in the community, therefore, the<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Why is it not? In the case of PLUG, it is essentially a group of officers<br>
with a mission and empowered to meet various roles in the community.<br>
<br>
In any case, it's the volunteers who do things that decide the direction<br>
for PLUG.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
loose, possibly anarchic PLUG control and growth never evolve. Did the<br>
PLUG ever obtain non-profit status riding under another 501-3C? Why not?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Running a 501(c)3 requires follow-through. That's something we haven't<br>
accomplished any of the times we've worked to start one. In any case, it's<br>
orthogonal to what PLUG needs. It's a red herring.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Committee". Can you tell me who are the members of the Steering Committee,<br>
and what they do or just who decides who is on that Committee (again Hans,<br>
right)?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Lisa, for years you've been making these inaccurate claims and for years<br>
you've been corrected. Please stop. We get regular comments about having a<br>
behaved and useful list. False claims detract from that.<br>
<br>
PLUG is not run by me or any other single person. PLUG activities happen<br>
because volunteers put in the effort to make them happen. I am not<br>
involved in the Installfests or the security meetings. They happen because<br>
volunteers such as yourself make them happen.<br>
<br>
I also do not control the steering committee or any other aspect of<br>
PLUG. At least one person has made it on the steering committee against my<br>
vote. Majority winѕ.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I am not just complaining, I am comparing from an educated experienced<br>
viewpoint, for the purposes of PLUG Change and GROWTH!<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Fine, make comparisons. Explain what you've learned from experience.<br>
That's good and positive.<br>
<br>
Repeatedly making false claims is not helpful. Your false claims also<br>
distract and obscure anything positive you might be trying to accomplish.<br>
<br>
ciao,<br>
<br>
der.hans<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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