OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your Cellphone

[Bob Elzer]

That's because those darn radio waves won't cooperate. When I was a
kid,those darn radio waves from Detroit would find there way into my radio
in NYC.

"CKLW MOTOR CITY DETROIT, FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS CLEAR CHANNEL....."
On Feb 16, 2013 11:56 PM, "Derek Trotter" <expat.arizonan at gmail.com> wrote:

> You make some good points.  It does make sense to have one standard for
> the nation instead of 50 for radio, tv, cell phones, etc.  I do have to
> wonder why the FCC should have any involvement in a radio station whose
> signal does not reach beyond Arizona.  If someone wants to establish a
> radio station in Ajo and only cover Ajo, why should they have to get
> permission from some bureaucrat in Washington?
>
> On 02/16/2013 11:25 PM, Kevin Brown wrote:
>
>>  While it has been used wrongly in some ways, that doesn't mean your
>> interpretation is correct. In fact it makes no mention excluding the rights
>> solely to taxation/tariffs. In the case of something like Radio waves that
>> don't pay attention to political borders, it makes sense for them to be
>> regulated at the Federal level rather than the State. Unless, you'd rather
>> have to find a router for your network that only worked in AZ...
>>
>>>
>>> Commerce clause has been false interpreted to extend Federal authority.
>>>  It was put in place to ensure there were no trade tariffs between states.
>>>  Not to regulate commerce as large.
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Keith Smith
>>>
>>> --- On *Sat, 2/16/13, Kevin Brown /<kevinbrownbdc at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     From: Kevin Brown <kevinbrownbdc at gmail.com>
>>>     Subject: Re: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your
>>>     Cellphone
>>>     To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.**org<plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
>>> >
>>>     Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013, 2:07 PM
>>>
>>>       The FCC exists under the Commerce clause of the US Constitution.
>>>     > Are cellular phones one of the numerated power of the Federal
>>>     Government?
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > ------------------------
>>>     > Keith Smith
>>>     >
>>>     > --- On *Sat, 2/16/13, ChasM Marshall /<chasm750 at hotmail.com
>>>     </mc/compose?to=chasm750@**hotmail.com <chasm750 at hotmail.com>>>/*
>>> wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >     From: ChasM Marshall <chasm750 at hotmail.com
>>>     </mc/compose?to=chasm750@**hotmail.com <chasm750 at hotmail.com>>>
>>>     >     Subject: RE: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock
>>> Your
>>>     >     Cellphone
>>>     >     To: "plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.**org<plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
>>>     </mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@**lists.phxlinux.org<plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
>>> >"
>>>     > <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.**org<plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
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>>> >>
>>>     >     Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013, 1:42 PM
>>>     >
>>>     >     What am I doing?
>>>     >     Well, I've NEVER bought a cell phone.  Carriers don't appear
>>>     to be
>>>     >     regulated.
>>>     >     I've waited half my life just to see "Do Not Call" enforced at
>>> a
>>>     >     Federal level.
>>>     >
>>>     > ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>> ------------
>>>     >     Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:02:51 -0700
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>>> >
>>>     >     From: l.tuttle at cox.net </mc/compose?to=l.tuttle at cox.**net<l.tuttle at cox.net>
>>> >
>>>     >     Subject: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your
>>>     Cellphone
>>>     >
>>>     >     Yes, I agree.  The question is, "What are you doing about
>>>     it?"  An
>>>     >     inch at a time.....
>>>     >
>>>     >     At 11:00 AM 1/26/2013, Derek Trotter wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     >         I can't argue Keith.  This is no longer a free country.
>>>   It's
>>>     >         not even a republic.  It's a bureaucracy. People who are
>>>     >         unelected and unaccountable to the people are now making
>>> the
>>>     >         laws and changing them anytime they feel like it.
>>>     >
>>>     >         On 01/26/2013 08:28 AM, keith smith wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >             I know some of you do not agree with my limited
>>>     government
>>>     >             position, however this is what a run away government
>>>     >             does.  We pay for our phones with those two year
>>>     >             contracts.  Our rates would be lower if they did not
>>>     >             "subsidize" our phones.  These phones are our property.
>>>     >
>>>     >             Hold onto your seat.  This is just an example of how
>>>     a run
>>>     >             away government is going to treat it's people.
>>>     >
>>>     >             This is not freedom, this is bondage.
>>>     >
>>>     >             Th article says in part:
>>>     >
>>>     >             The worst-case scenario for an individual or civil
>>>     offense
>>>     >             could be as much as a $2,500 fine. As for those
>>> planning
>>>     >             to profit off of the act or a criminal offense --
>>>     such as
>>>     >             a cellphone reseller -- the fine could be as high as
>>>     >             $500,000 and include prison time.
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>> http://abcnews.go.com/**Technology/now-illegal-unlock-**
>>> cellphone/story?id=18319518<http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319518>
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >             ------------------------
>>>     >             Keith Smith
>>>     >
>>>     >
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