OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your Cellphone

Kevin Brown kevinbrownbdc at gmail.com
Sun Feb 17 00:10:30 MST 2013 

  That depends. Shortwave radios can reach a long distance on little 
power. AM requires more, but can also go quite some distance. So, there 
are certain limits that if you go over them you have to have a license 
because of the chance of going farther than your local municipality. I 
believe for FM radios it is 100W (which is 100x the strength of what 
your local wireless router is allowed to get up to).
> You make some good points.  It does make sense to have one standard 
> for the nation instead of 50 for radio, tv, cell phones, etc.  I do 
> have to wonder why the FCC should have any involvement in a radio 
> station whose signal does not reach beyond Arizona.  If someone wants 
> to establish a radio station in Ajo and only cover Ajo, why should 
> they have to get permission from some bureaucrat in Washington?
>
> On 02/16/2013 11:25 PM, Kevin Brown wrote:
>>  While it has been used wrongly in some ways, that doesn't mean your 
>> interpretation is correct. In fact it makes no mention excluding the 
>> rights solely to taxation/tariffs. In the case of something like 
>> Radio waves that don't pay attention to political borders, it makes 
>> sense for them to be regulated at the Federal level rather than the 
>> State. Unless, you'd rather have to find a router for your network 
>> that only worked in AZ...
>>>
>>> Commerce clause has been false interpreted to extend Federal 
>>> authority.  It was put in place to ensure there were no trade 
>>> tariffs between states.  Not to regulate commerce as large.
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Keith Smith
>>>
>>> --- On *Sat, 2/16/13, Kevin Brown /<kevinbrownbdc at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     From: Kevin Brown <kevinbrownbdc at gmail.com>
>>>     Subject: Re: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your
>>>     Cellphone
>>>     To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
>>>     Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013, 2:07 PM
>>>
>>>       The FCC exists under the Commerce clause of the US Constitution.
>>> > Are cellular phones one of the numerated power of the Federal
>>>     Government?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------
>>> > Keith Smith
>>> >
>>> > --- On *Sat, 2/16/13, ChasM Marshall /<chasm750 at hotmail.com
>>> </mc/compose?to=chasm750 at hotmail.com>>/* wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     From: ChasM Marshall <chasm750 at hotmail.com
>>> </mc/compose?to=chasm750 at hotmail.com>>
>>> >     Subject: RE: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your
>>> >     Cellphone
>>> >     To: "plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
>>> </mc/compose?to=plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>"
>>> > <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
>>> </mc/compose?to=plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>>
>>> >     Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013, 1:42 PM
>>> >
>>> >     What am I doing?
>>> >     Well, I've NEVER bought a cell phone.  Carriers don't appear
>>>     to be
>>> >     regulated.
>>> >     I've waited half my life just to see "Do Not Call" enforced at a
>>> >     Federal level.
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>
>>> >     Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:02:51 -0700
>>> >     To: plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
>>> </mc/compose?to=plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
>>> >     From: l.tuttle at cox.net </mc/compose?to=l.tuttle at cox.net>
>>> >     Subject: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your
>>>     Cellphone
>>> >
>>> >     Yes, I agree.  The question is, "What are you doing about
>>>     it?"  An
>>> >     inch at a time.....
>>> >
>>> >     At 11:00 AM 1/26/2013, Derek Trotter wrote:
>>> >
>>> >         I can't argue Keith.  This is no longer a free country. 
>>>     It's
>>> >         not even a republic.  It's a bureaucracy. People who are
>>> >         unelected and unaccountable to the people are now making the
>>> >         laws and changing them anytime they feel like it.
>>> >
>>> >         On 01/26/2013 08:28 AM, keith smith wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >             I know some of you do not agree with my limited
>>>     government
>>> >             position, however this is what a run away government
>>> >             does.  We pay for our phones with those two year
>>> >             contracts.  Our rates would be lower if they did not
>>> >             "subsidize" our phones.  These phones are our property.
>>> >
>>> >             Hold onto your seat.  This is just an example of how
>>>     a run
>>> >             away government is going to treat it's people.
>>> >
>>> >             This is not freedom, this is bondage.
>>> >
>>> >             Th article says in part:
>>> >
>>> >             The worst-case scenario for an individual or civil
>>>     offense
>>> >             could be as much as a $2,500 fine. As for those planning
>>> >             to profit off of the act or a criminal offense --
>>>     such as
>>> >             a cellphone reseller -- the fine could be as high as
>>> >             $500,000 and include prison time.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319518 
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >             ------------------------
>>> >             Keith Smith
>>> >
>>> >
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